I probably should be. Unfortunately my talents have been temporarily shunted into sales work.Originally Posted by Lobo
I probably should be. Unfortunately my talents have been temporarily shunted into sales work.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I bet, but why exactly?
What do these signs mean—,
, etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason,
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function(extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Saying that people who disagree with you are retards, assuming you are an expert. I haven't even seen that subtype theory you're using and you are using it as a fact.I bet, but why exactly?
Knock yourself out.
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Why do you only say things with the sole purpose of alienating people around you?
Introverted because he draws attention to himself. I don't know who wrote that, but it seems to work
Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Gilly, do you see yourself as my Identical?
I honestly don't feel it. Nothing against you, I just don't feel like we're the same at all. I feel more akin to the IEIs on here but I really don't think I'm IEI. However, we both allegedly are 3x4 sx/so AND I've read around people typing you as EIE-SEE (or you typing yourself that?) ... which is also what I think I am.
So if that were all true, then we should be *really* identical.. I could only be the Ni subtype of EIE though. You're just so much more out there than me, and that actually comes across as Ne.. at least imo. This is what I also thought about JennaMarbles... I don't know
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
*shrug* I calls em as I sees em.Why do you only say things with the sole purpose of alienating people around you?
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
I don't see how you could be EIE, tbh. I actually met a girl last night who reminded me of you x10000000 and she was a blatant IEI-Fe. FWIW I have never thought you seemed like EIE or, frankly, anything other than IEI-Fe.
Don't you see the similarity between, say, numbers and I, how we both kind of put on little "shows" on stickam? Which is something I can't really see you doing. I see you being on stage, but I dont see you making a stage for yourself as easily as an EIE, or really any Fe valuing extrovert.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
your subtype theory is one of the stupidest pieces of shit Ive ever read on here.Knock yourself out.
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is
he might as well be a benchmark eie, remember that they have ne demonstrative - ne dominance doesnt manifest such forceful and consistent emotionality. as a sidenote, you are an anamoly that many people here still see as iei, so I wouldnt count your relatability to him or anyone else as anything substantial(EIE or otherwise)
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is
anyway, gilly is definitely eie. dj & I both agree that you are fe sub, ni sub is very unlikely.
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is
Do tell why.your subtype theory is one of the stupidest pieces of shit Ive ever read on here.
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Dude, she looks like Asian Stasia.
Who the hell is Stasia? And Ezra jeez you could've picked a picture I liked!I hate seeing that dammit.
And Starfall.. lol you might have been confusing the times you've seen me record myself on cam... I've never actually done it LIVE on Stickam or whatever.
I dunno, I was like 100% certain I was EIE and now things like this make me question, but I dunno... actually I should be more questioning GILLY as an EIE vs. myself as an EIE. I still think if any of you met me IRL and really see how I go about in the world that I am very far off from most IEIs. W/E I honestly could just be a true hybrid type.... lol
Lol that would be funny if i met effy since I'm going to UofT St.george this sept. Not too sure about her type still
Beta NF -
I think this probably goes to show that we are likely both Ni-EIE and that Ni-EIE 3s have shitty issues with finding/keeping their typeWho the hell is Stasia? And Ezra jeez you could've picked a picture I liked!
And Starfall.. lol you might have been confusing the times you've seen me record myself on cam... I've never actually done it LIVE on Stickam or whatever.
I dunno, I was like 100% certain I was EIE and now things like this make me question, but I dunno... actually I should be more questioning GILLY as an EIE vs. myself as an EIE. I still think if any of you met me IRL and really see how I go about in the world that I am very far off from most IEIs. W/E I honestly could just be a true hybrid type.... lol
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But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
o.O Every time I see her on cam she behaves exactly like Glam.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Which is why you guys so desperately need Ti. You need someone telling you how things are and and why it fits over and over, someone who isn't going to shift around with every little change, but will focus on what's important, eliminating the extraneous, and doesn't get easily sidetracked.I think this probably goes to show that we are likely both Ni-EIE and that Ni-EIE 3s have shitty issues with finding/keeping their typeWho the hell is Stasia? And Ezra jeez you could've picked a picture I liked!
And Starfall.. lol you might have been confusing the times you've seen me record myself on cam... I've never actually done it LIVE on Stickam or whatever.
I dunno, I was like 100% certain I was EIE and now things like this make me question, but I dunno... actually I should be more questioning GILLY as an EIE vs. myself as an EIE. I still think if any of you met me IRL and really see how I go about in the world that I am very far off from most IEIs. W/E I honestly could just be a true hybrid type.... lol
So, here you go. You identify and exemplify the DA cognitive style very well Gilly. I don't see any other that fits you better, and you make a great practical example of how that style works. That's EIE, LSE, SEI, and ILI. You're sure as hell not the other 3, so there's one demonstration of EIE.
There can be little doubt that you're a Fe-quadra extrovert, and you seem to put a lot of effort into understanding socionics in a Ti way, and have imo a good understanding of how it works, but don't seem to be able to tie the objective and subjective together to see how you fit within the system yourself. Imo, that is tied both to extroversion, and non-ego Ti. Ni is self-reflective, but not within a structure or system. Ti is about making things fit together, lining up the puzzle so all the pieces have a spot, including yourself if need be as one of the pieces. That leaves EIE and ESE, and Si creative makes absolutely no sense at all, so EIE again.
Those are two large and stable pieces pointing to EIE. Supporting evidence is temperament, VI, descriptions, reinin dichotomies etc. I like reinin dichotomies a lot, except there can be far too much wiggle room in some of them, making them difficult to pin down in a surefire way. VI I like less, but it's a good backup for everything else rather than a main or first line piece of evidence, imo. I know that some people like it as a primary type-determination, but I think it really should be secondary.
I don't know you well enough to say a lot, but the supporting stuff seems to further back up EIE imo.
LOL, only 2 things. Tumblr and your Thread for meet ups. Going there for commerceOMG lol you are? ...Lol that would be funny if i met effy since I'm going to UofT St.george this sept
Wait how do you know all this about me?, are you really at st.george? cuz i figure it's probably not at scarborough nor Missisauga.
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Yes, St. George! We have to meet!! Add me on Facebook?LOL, only 2 things. Tumblr and your Thread for meet ups. Going there for commerce
Ok :S, just so you know i don't use facebook that much. Barely touched it since i created it lol.Yes, St. George! We have to meet!! Add me on Facebook?
LOL, only 2 things. Tumblr and your Thread for meet ups. Going there for commerce
*Edit* F'en sh't! ever since i created the account i meant.
Last edited by Variant; 06-16-2011 at 09:04 PM.
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Wat the heck is that supposed to mean? lol
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Ok fine, I touched it a little. But just to delete stuff and update profile infoLies.
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That you can't be bothered to look it up while sitting at an internet terminal further proves what I just said in your enneagram thread.
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Stan is not my real name.
What makes you think that i didn't search it up? I'm just wondering what you were trying to imply because i do* have a twin. I should be sayin what effy did "How do you know me?"That you can't be bothered to look it up while sitting at an internet terminal further proves what I just said in your enneagram thread.
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If you'd looked it up you'd have quickly noted that the Winklevoss twins are known primarily for their claim of having invented the idea of Facebook and for their IP theft lawsuits concerning the same. So by reading the following...
...I can infer, for comedic purposes only of course, that you're one the Winklevoss boys. Ho ho ho. By the way, how's your supervision of me working out?
Lolll i don't mind really, my dad is an ILI, probably Ni sub so it seems like I'm talking to him. I also have a really good friend who is also an ILI i believe...yeap good timesIf you'd looked it up you'd have quickly noted that the Winklevoss twins are known primarily for their claim of having invented the idea of Facebook and for their IP theft lawsuits concerning the same. So by reading the following...
...I can infer, for comedic purposes only of course, that you're one the Winklevoss boys. Ho ho ho. By the way, how's your supervision of me working out?
Last edited by Variant; 06-16-2011 at 09:05 PM.
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I even knew who the Winklevosses were and I didn't get it at first either....I can infer, for comedic purposes only of course, that you're one the Winklevoss boys. Ho ho ho.
Stan is not my real name.
Props broI even knew who the Winklevosses were and I didn't get it at first either.!
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That is really clever, though. Still making me chuckle.
Stan is not my real name.
Why do some people say Fe sub for me? I feel like I'm obviously p-ish for a rational type; I'm always P in MBTI.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
What sub do you think this guy is?
FE-EIE would probably not be at the top of my list for typing him. He seems llike a 3, and probably IP temperament. Unless you mean the interviewer...
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
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