I probably should be. Unfortunately my talents have been temporarily shunted into sales work.Originally Posted by Lobo
I probably should be. Unfortunately my talents have been temporarily shunted into sales work.Originally Posted by Lobo
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Introverted because he draws attention to himself. I don't know who wrote that, but it seems to work
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Gilly, do you see yourself as my Identical?
I honestly don't feel it. Nothing against you, I just don't feel like we're the same at all. I feel more akin to the IEIs on here but I really don't think I'm IEI. However, we both allegedly are 3x4 sx/so AND I've read around people typing you as EIE-SEE (or you typing yourself that?) ... which is also what I think I am.
So if that were all true, then we should be *really* identical.. I could only be the Ni subtype of EIE though. You're just so much more out there than me, and that actually comes across as Ne.. at least imo. This is what I also thought about JennaMarbles... I don't know
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
I don't see how you could be EIE, tbh. I actually met a girl last night who reminded me of you x10000000 and she was a blatant IEI-Fe. FWIW I have never thought you seemed like EIE or, frankly, anything other than IEI-Fe.
Don't you see the similarity between, say, numbers and I, how we both kind of put on little "shows" on stickam? Which is something I can't really see you doing. I see you being on stage, but I dont see you making a stage for yourself as easily as an EIE, or really any Fe valuing extrovert.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
he might as well be a benchmark eie, remember that they have ne demonstrative - ne dominance doesnt manifest such forceful and consistent emotionality. as a sidenote, you are an anamoly that many people here still see as iei, so I wouldnt count your relatability to him or anyone else as anything substantial(EIE or otherwise)
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not
anyway, gilly is definitely eie. dj & I both agree that you are fe sub, ni sub is very unlikely.
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not
What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Who the hell is Stasia? And Ezra jeez you could've picked a picture I liked! I hate seeing that dammit.
And Starfall.. lol you might have been confusing the times you've seen me record myself on cam... I've never actually done it LIVE on Stickam or whatever.
I dunno, I was like 100% certain I was EIE and now things like this make me question, but I dunno... actually I should be more questioning GILLY as an EIE vs. myself as an EIE. I still think if any of you met me IRL and really see how I go about in the world that I am very far off from most IEIs. W/E I honestly could just be a true hybrid type.... lol
Lol that would be funny if i met effy since I'm going to UofT St.george this sept . Not too sure about her type still
Beta NF - E-(6w5), 9w1, 4w5 sp/sx
Last edited by Gilly; 06-16-2011 at 06:05 PM.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Which is why you guys so desperately need Ti. You need someone telling you how things are and and why it fits over and over, someone who isn't going to shift around with every little change, but will focus on what's important, eliminating the extraneous, and doesn't get easily sidetracked.
So, here you go . You identify and exemplify the DA cognitive style very well Gilly. I don't see any other that fits you better, and you make a great practical example of how that style works. That's EIE, LSE, SEI, and ILI. You're sure as hell not the other 3, so there's one demonstration of EIE.
There can be little doubt that you're a Fe-quadra extrovert, and you seem to put a lot of effort into understanding socionics in a Ti way, and have imo a good understanding of how it works, but don't seem to be able to tie the objective and subjective together to see how you fit within the system yourself. Imo, that is tied both to extroversion, and non-ego Ti. Ni is self-reflective, but not within a structure or system. Ti is about making things fit together, lining up the puzzle so all the pieces have a spot, including yourself if need be as one of the pieces. That leaves EIE and ESE, and Si creative makes absolutely no sense at all, so EIE again.
Those are two large and stable pieces pointing to EIE. Supporting evidence is temperament, VI, descriptions, reinin dichotomies etc. I like reinin dichotomies a lot, except there can be far too much wiggle room in some of them, making them difficult to pin down in a surefire way. VI I like less, but it's a good backup for everything else rather than a main or first line piece of evidence, imo. I know that some people like it as a primary type-determination, but I think it really should be secondary.
I don't know you well enough to say a lot, but the supporting stuff seems to further back up EIE imo.
If you'd looked it up you'd have quickly noted that the Winklevoss twins are known primarily for their claim of having invented the idea of Facebook and for their IP theft lawsuits concerning the same. So by reading the following...
...I can infer, for comedic purposes only of course, that you're one the Winklevoss boys. Ho ho ho. By the way, how's your supervision of me working out?
Lolll i don't mind really, my dad is an ILI, probably Ni sub so it seems like I'm talking to him. I also have a really good friend who is also an ILI i believe...yeap good times . Durr i just find that you bring up things that i haven't thought about before-sometimes i'm caught off guard like that. It's like nuance-ing all over again.
Last edited by Variant; 06-16-2011 at 09:05 PM.
Beta NF - E-(6w5), 9w1, 4w5 sp/sx
That is really clever, though. Still making me chuckle.
Stan is not my real name.
Why do some people say Fe sub for me? I feel like I'm obviously p-ish for a rational type; I'm always P in MBTI.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
What sub do you think this guy is?
FE-EIE would probably not be at the top of my list for typing him. He seems llike a 3, and probably IP temperament. Unless you mean the interviewer...
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...