Originally Posted by
Kristiina
I already feel like I'm constantly trying to prove I'm not this ethical friendly girl-next-door.
That is the big problem with typing you. You have those stereotypes in your head and it is by comparing yourself to those that you try to find your type. And no matter how often one says that those stereotypes are incorrect, you keep coming back to them.
I have already told you that my ISFj ex is a very successful professional, and that one of my friends from university did his PhD in chemical engineering and became a full tenured professor before anyone else, but you prefer to stick to your stereotypes.
In point of fact, I'd bet that should you ever meet any of the forum ENTjs personally, your reaction would be "these guys aren't ENTjs! They do not correspond to my image of what an ENTj is"!
That is so
.
Originally Posted by
Kristiina
Tell me one type in beta who I could be with no controversies. Me spending my life (and room) with a beta would definitely change how I see the world. It won't make me beta, but it will make me similar to them. You can't just say stuff without considering everything about it. If you think I'm beta, prove it (completely explain it).
There again comes you with your
. This is a ridiculous challenge. As Joy said, there is no way to "prove" anything about typing, especially online. The best you can do is make a case considering everything and see which one fits best all the available evidence. But one has to look at it neutrally, which you are not doing. Your whole point with this little challenge is to be able to say, "you did not prove it completely, so shut up, I'll stick to ENTj" etc.
I can't
prove that you are Beta. This is ridiculous. I can only make the case. I'm not even "sure" you are Beta myself.
But I'll make the case anyway.
First, the most consistent thing about you - and that FDG, Dynamicism, Eidos, and myself have noted (and, frankly, dislike) is that you have Aristocratic values. You clearly see people as belonging to different groups, not as individuals - your references to "social darwinism" etc. You don't naturally see people as individuals. That also seems to be your approach to typing, by the way.
Second, you have
over
, which together with being Aristocratic puts you in Beta. I'm not so sure about
>
because ISFjs can also make this impression. The hidden agenda of ISFjs confuses this IMO.
Originally Posted by
Kristiina
From that description, he makes an INFp as well as INTp impression, the main factor for INTp being that he seems to be very critical, that is, Negative. However, if he was well into intuitive subtype, the Positive/Negative dichotomy would blur. But his being so jokey and people-oriented at work would point toward INFp instead.
Something for you to consider. If you are ISTj well into sensory subtype, and he, INFp intuitive subtype, he'd be at a peak of Victim and you, at a peak of Aggressor. And you'd still be both in Beta which would account for your compatibility.
It would also account for the ISFj impression that you make. It might even account for your own on-off
if it's just the 8th function of a
sensory subtype.
Now if you think you're not ISTj because you don't fit your stereotypical view of them, well, it becomes difficult.