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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    Excellent thread. I have reason to believe that Ti(External Field Statics) is actually native to Beta and the Ti that shows in Alpha & is representative of INTj is a derivative of primary Beta Ti. Just as well, the other quadras are all primarily representative of one function pair.

    Alpha(Ne/Si) ~ Beta(Fe/Ti) ~ Gamma(Se/Ni) ~ Delta(Te/Fi)

    If you break the elements down by +/-, this is what you get. These fixed primary pairs are the reason for the distinctions between the quadras.
    That's an interesting theory, but do you see any strong evidence for it? As I understand, the +/- idea came from a speculative article by Gulenko in which he surmised that types' uses of functions could be divided into "near term" and "long-term" usage. He used +/- merely as indicators for his idea. Then some people on this forum (e.g., hitta) started interpreting "-" to mean "anti" in some sense, without much basis from the original article, which in turn didn't show much empirical research to begin with.

    I would have to suspect too that one must be very careful how one's own type may affect how one sees these formulas. For example, seeing Gamma as primarily about Se/Ni may make all the sense in the world if you're ILI. But if you're LIE or ESI, Te/Fi probably comes much more into focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    That's an interesting theory, but do you see any strong evidence for it? As I understand, the +/- idea came from a speculative article by Gulenko in which he surmised that types' uses of functions could be divided into "near term" and "long-term" usage. He used +/- merely as indicators for his idea. Then some people on this forum (e.g., hitta) started interpreting "-" to mean "anti" in some sense, without much basis from the original article, which in turn didn't show much empirical research to begin with.
    Watch yourself buddy, we don't take kindly to folks like you bargin' in here and demanding evidence or empiricism, apparently.

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    jason_m; nice job on the analysis.
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    2) I don't fit the classic LII description at all, and the problem is always related to this concrete/organizational factor.
    those parts don't work very well in my case either.

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