What is temperament?

[Sir Knight]

Why? Do you know in the first place why I was partially wrong?

You are stating things that are good and well-known and obvious. Anyone who has spent any degree of time with Socionics knows that Base Ni is different from Creative Ni is different from Ni as an IA/IE, etc. Hence, you are fully wrong in assuming that I or anyone else here does not recognize and understand the distinction.

[The Ineffable]

You are stating things that are good and well-known and obvious. Anyone who has spent any degree of time with Socionics knows that Base Ni is different from Creative Ni is different from Ni as an IA/IE, etc. Hence, you are fully wrong in assuming that I or anyone else here does not recognize and understand the distinction.

Then you misunderstood my whole point:
- 1. I was making no assumption about you, you didn't ask about Ni, Ti, Te, etc (Ni was just an example);
- 2. when I corrected you the first time, I had Information Aspects in mind; yes, temperaments actually deal with IEs, although they're a specific case;
- 3. the problem is questions like "what is Ni/Ne/Fi/Fe" are nonsensical, regardless of whether you can differentiate between IAs, IEs, as Ego, as Base and so on.

When someone asks "what is Ti", you don't have to assume he/she can't make the difference, it is a consequence of his question. If he knows about the multiple meaning then he knows there's no answer, only a noob can ask such thing. Such question is a semantic one.

[Sir Knight]

Then you misunderstood my whole point:
- 1. I was making no assumption about you, you didn't ask about Ni, Ti, Te, etc (Ni was just an example);
- 2. when I corrected you the first time, I had Information Aspects in mind; yes, temperaments actually deal with IEs, although they're a specific case;
- 3. the problem is questions like "what is Ni/Ne/Fi/Fe" are nonsensical, regardless of whether you can differentiate between IAs, IEs, as Ego, as Base and so on.

When someone asks "what is Ti", you don't have to assume he/she can't make the difference, it is a consequence of his question. If he knows about the multiple meaning then he knows there's no answer, only a noob can ask such thing. Such question is a semantic one.

If you feel the need to make rules to prevent people from mistaking these differences, then the underlying assumption would be that you don't think they understand them in the first place. If you assumed people understood h distinction, there would be no need for rules safeguarding it, now would there?

And of course there's an answer. Just because a word may have multiple definitions in the dictionary does not mean that it is wrong for a person to ask what the word means. In this context, to ask, "What is Ni?" or "What is temperament?" is to ask for all of these definitions. That is the context of this thread and others of its ilk which I seem to have not made plain enough for you: this isn't to hammer down a concrete, singular, broadly applicable definition of what X or Y is, but rather to find out how people experience X or Y, how it colors their thinking, how they feel about it, what it means to be X or Y, etc.

[ashlesha]

anyway. i wonder if this post will just get lost in the other stuff.

IJ. idk. my leading function is Ji, i'm introverted and rational...my energy levels are pretty steady i guess. i haven't given a lot of thought to my temperament and i don't see myself as especially stiff or w/e IJs are supposed to be...maybe i am, comparatively. i wonder how much subtype plays a role (being a Pe subtype and H in dcnh).

i dont have anything remarkably fascinating to say about this topic but i'm curious how much other people identify with their temperaments. rerail attempt!