I can hardly stand ENTjs right now

[pianosinger]

Help me see your good side, eh?

[Azeroffs]

I'm not sure what this thread hopes to accomplish.

[Sir Knight]

The first google image result for "LIEs' good side:"



Make of this image what you will.

[Korpsy Knievel]

Gosh, what could the significance of this be? *pretense of grave beard stroking*

[Bardia]

If this is about LIEs in the other thread I don't think this approach will be very helpful for you... if this is about real life LIEs please disregard this message.

[Korpsy Knievel]

Thanks to pianosinger and her thread for helping to confirm the commonality of a behavior I've noted in a number of other supposed IEEs: alluding to unnamed villains before an audience after being thwarted in debate. Perhaps socionics is for real after all.

[pianosinger]

If this is about LIEs in the other thread I don't think this approach will be very helpful for you... if this is about real life LIEs please disregard this message.

Some of both. My brother-in-law and my father are both LIEs, and after dealing with a couple in-- yes-- "the other thread," all it's done for me is stir up already-muddy water.

Current (totally uncharitable) picture of LIEs at the moment:

Loud
Impatient
Opinionated
Intolerant
Inconsiderate
Tactless
Insulting
Wholly incapable of admitting to being "wrong"

And worst of all, dealing with them apparently makes me inclined to become...

Loud
Impatient
Opinionated
Intolerant
Inconsiderate
Tactless
Insulting
Wholly incapable of admitting to being "wrong"

It's no wonder, I guess, that they happen to be my Beneficiaries, since I find practically no benefit from interacting with them.

[Cuddly McFluffles]

Help me see your good side, eh?

Go read Jack London.

[FDG]

My good side is my front side, I guess. Back side shows little except my ass.

[Cuddly McFluffles]

Back side shows little except my ass.

Some might say that is your good side.

[Gilly]

Go read Jack London.

Fuck yeah.

[Absurd]

Don't think reading will help, as in reading his novels, it's only a tiny portion about this guy and we're talking about a guy who was active on 3 continents, and what is even more funnier (?), is I doubt many LIEs on here will find an identical in him.

[FDG]

Well I definitely identify with some characters he portrays in his novels. I guess Martin Eden is the one I like the most.

[Absurd]

Well I definitely identify with some characters he portrays in his novels. I guess Martin Eden is the one I like the most.

Alright, I was talking about Jack London, a guy who wrote under many aliases during his political activity in U.S., Australia and U.K., a guy who actually fits gamma quadra description (at least one line of it), and not some stereotypical money, free market, monkeys, depiction on wikisocion, written in some domain, which I take is to be taken more humourously than seriously.

Anyway, do you consider yourself an individualist FDG ?

[Cuddly McFluffles]

For what it's worth, pianosinger, I admire that you were willing to voice your beliefs, even if they aren't very popular. If I were going to talk about something like that, this forum would not be my first choice.

I don't know any confirmed LIEs, so I can't help you see their good points, but I'm sorry you're having trouble with them. I know what it's like to be around people who invalidate one's views, and it sucks.

[betterthandead]

For the most part they are good - in terms of business/military non interpersonal life. They mean very well and are straight up with what they say.

An ENFP however.

[Simon Ssmall]

Yet to meet an ENTj that I would have problems with. I don't have close friends that are ENTj though, but the ones I met seems like cool people.

[bionic]

I'm curious... it seems as though your frustrations rest more upon your brother and father than it does with the type. So I think you're using your own experience with them and projecting that onto the type as a whole. Which only causes friction... and fallacies.

Could you please describe a situation between your brother and father that upset you? Perhaps it would be more effective to analyze the situation and find solutions to help you deal with them more easier.