Is Age Discrimination running rampant?

[tcaudilllg]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_864873.html


I think the rule is, based on the above testimony, NEVER EVER DISCLOSE YOUR AGE ON AN APP. Only say you are over 18 -- if they require more than that, tell others and contact your lawyer, and prepare to participate in a class action suit. But do not disclose your age because the law specifically states that you don't have to, and by doing so, you can make it more difficult for people to make hiring decisions without taking your age into account.

I just read in my HR text that the status of age discrimination legislation is "uncertain" because there are questions over how to apply it (GEEZ HOW ABOUT CONSCIOUSLY EXCLUDE AGE FROM THE LIST OF REASONS TO HIRE?). This is a sign that business professionals, as a group, are moving in direct defiance of the law.

[Skeptic]

Yeah, age discrimination is 10x worse than racism has ever been - just look at schools, at the laws regarding families, etc. for younger people. Older have it better off, but still experience both discrimination in the job market as you point out but also in other levels of life.

Tis a sad thing, because it's actually accepted to some extent - it is just assumed that the younger/older are less capable/competent, just like it was assumed that blacks were inferior back in the old days. I don't see progress on this issue until people overcome all the other shallow criteria like skin/race, religion, sex and so on - age would be the last of those things overcome.

[EyeSeeCold]

Thanks for the tip.

[Slacker]

Age discrimination is not like racism. Age discrimination is temporary, and doesn't affect your whole family their whole lives, generation after generation. Stop whining.

[Skeptic]

Age discrimination is not like racism. Age discrimination is temporary, and doesn't affect your whole family their whole lives, generation after generation. Stop whining.

It affects everyone, to say that it does not is absurd, for we were all at one time young. It will affect you again too; you're just not on the receiving end of it right now, so I can't say how impartial you are.

Since you appear to be one of those who would subject the innocent to your discriminatory tendencies, consider this; if I told you that you are not physically capable, mentally fit, morally/judgmentally sound and so on and that I happen to know that two arbitrarily different people are, and that you are henceforth subject to those two persons' wills as decreed by law for the next 18 years of your life, what would you say? That you should just take it and not 'whine'? Do you think that just because this subordinate/slave status is temporary that it would make any difference?

Do you not think that this is an obvious case of accusing another human being of being inferior? Do you think that it is so distinguishable from racism, sexism and the like that you are justified in perpetuating it? Doesn't this go against your moral code or something like that?

In this case, the job market, being younger or older does not necessarily distinguish you from the physically/mentally fit for the job; to discriminate based on it is the same as discrimination based on race.

[Slacker]

It affects everyone, to say that it does not is absurd, for we were all at one time young. It will affect you again too; you're just not on the receiving end of it right now, so I can't say how impartial you are.

Since you appear to be one of those who would subject the innocent to your discriminatory tendencies, consider this; if I told you that you are not physically capable, mentally fit, morally/judgmentally sound and so on and that I happen to know that two arbitrarily different people are, and that you are henceforth subject to those two persons' wills as decreed by law for the next 18 years of your life, what would you say? That you should just take it and not 'whine'? Do you think that just because this subordinate/slave status is temporary that it would make any difference?

Do you not think that this is an obvious case of accusing another human being of being inferior? Do you think that it is so distinguishable from racism, sexism and the like that you are justified in perpetuating it? Doesn't this go against your moral code or something like that?

In this case, the job market, being younger or older does not necessarily distinguish you from the physically/mentally fit for the job; to discriminate based on it is the same as discrimination based on race.

First of all, you're making a lot of assumptions.

But as for children being under the control of their parents for 18 years, well there's a reason for that. There isnt' much difference between a 16-year-old and an 18-year-old, but there's some. But you certainly can't think it's age discrimination for a 3-year-old to be under the control of his/her parents. So the whole 18 years aren't fair to consider "age discrimination." Then, also, there's usually a difference in education and work experience between ages when you're young.

There is true age discrimination in the world, but even that isn't anything like racism, which is a part of someone's whole life, was a part of that person's parents' lives, and will be a part of their childrens' lives, and all decendents, forever. There is no comparison between those two situations, even if they're both wrong.

[tcaudilllg]

What is really insane about age discrimination, is it often comes down to the young discriminating against their elders and vice versa. Infanticide, anyone?

The reason age discrimination exists, is because turnover is one of the means by which managers rank HR specialists against each other. You are responsible for the success of who you hire. There is apparently illegal pressure on HR people by their bosses to hire people who are younger, so that the total input by the worker will be maximized relative to the retirement package. Not at all surprising... what is surprising is that the FBI has been derelict in investigating it. This is why a class action suit is needed, so that the downtrodden can stand up to the evildoers without fear of retaliation by discrimination-sympathetic persons.

[NewBorn STAR]

I capitalism.
Sorry for how much that sucks, man. I can't wait to enter the work force.

I want to fondle with you. Lets be small puppies unleashed, Just wanting to spread our wings and let the love fly us away. Far away. Oh dear one how i adore you

[Korpsy Knievel]

Yay, schadenfreude. Pass the catfood and the hotsauce.

[Creepy-male]

Age discrimination is not like racism. Age discrimination is temporary, and doesn't affect your whole family their whole lives, generation after generation. Stop whining.

Why does this sound like "its better to discriminate based on age than on race", because it doesn't cause as much damage. Stop whining.

That's like me saying, its better to rape a woman and use a condom because it lessens the chance of impregnating her. Stop whining.

I'm sorry but the argument that X is not as bad as Y so its justifiable is piss poor reasoning. Then the whole stop whining thing, is a blatant discussion stopper. The only way problems get solved are with discussion. If you don't want to talk about it, that's fine, but why do you have to shut down debate for those that do? especially when you don't even have a good argument, other than.... its not as bad as racism.

This is the kind of disgusting political mentality that is too prevalent, its a game of king of the hill for who the biggest victim is or who is the most wronged, or what issue is really important.

It's rather stupid because what happens when the king claims his hill? He sits there like a big baby and bitches to everyone indignantly telling them how their issues aren't important as his? Bullshit...

[Slacker]

If you don't want it compared to racism, don't compare it to racism. I'm cool with that.

[Hitta]

I think it's thoroughly ridiculous that anyone can file lawsuits for discrimination in the workplace; be it sexual, racial, or age.