@COVID 007
Can you please elaborate? I have a hard time seeing democratic/aristocratic styles in this video.
Also, I don't think LIEs are the only type that can do business, and I'm not doubting her abilities as an entrepreneur. Her business sounds extremely unique and profitable, and Limor is very intelligent. Also, I know I'm using heuristics, but she just comes across more as an IEE maniac pixie dream girl rather than a logically rigid and vision-oriented businesswoman.
@nanashi
Alpha: "be like everyone else, but don't fight for status"
Ne/Si > To achieve all human potentialities through a safe and comfortable environment
Ti/Fe >Making judgements using a collectivistic framework grounded in abstract universal principles
Beta: "be like everyone else, but be better than others"
Ni/Se > To achieve a singular idealistic vision through power and force
Ti/Fe >Making judgements using a collectivistic framework grounded in abstract universal principles
Gamma: "be yourself, but be better than others"
Te/Fi > Making judgements using an individualistic framework, emphasizing the optimization of desirable results for each individual
Ni/Se > To achieve a singular idealistic vision through power and force
Delta: "be yourself, but don't fight for status'
Ne/Si > To achieve all human potentialities through a safe and comfortable environment
Te/Fi > Making judgements using an individualistic framework, emphasizing the optimization of desirable results for each individual
Because of the Se/Ni orientation, I generally think of gammas as taking an individualistic approach in order to acquire status and achieve their dreams. Se/Ni valuers generally see the world as hierarchical like a zero sum game, while Fi/Te valuers focus on individuals instead of the collective. This leads to a worldview that emphasizes achieving personal goals instead of collective ones. Of course, gammas have people that they care about, but it's generally reserved for loved ones, and people close to them.
On the contrary "Gamma types take a longer-term view regarding efficiency and profitability, giving lower priority to the short term. Likewise, they tend to aim at the broader benefits of decisions, rather than only at those affecting themselves, giving them an inclination for self-sacrifice."
@nanashi
Yes, for themselves and their loved ones. Not for society as a whole.
Yeah, this sounds like me.
That sounds E2: https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-2 E2 disintegrates to E8, so they are more 8-ish under stress.
Idk, I help ppl, but its always begrudgingly, unless I know the person well and like them. To me ppl who can't help themselves just seem weak and that is annoying.. I just perceive it as wasted time and effort better spent elsewhere.
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not giving a shit about my species is like letting my sources of growth, survival, companionship, education, interesting work, entertainment, raison d'etre, and beauty die off. it's functional, useful, etc, to see them as assets
without their momentum, needs, insights, existence can be pretty boring to me.
I can't speak for other gamma, but as an ILI, I don't care about status. What I care about is freedom, to be free to do anything I want without chains in my neck. If I ever seek money or profit, It's because I need more resource, which give me more choices (more freedom) to deal with my own problems or to get what I want. I don't need to be better than others, getting what I want is more important. Other people are just... irrelevant, I don't care shit about them, why do I have to compare myself to them?
That woman and i ..and LIE often crave innovation and testing ourselves through weird physical world feats. Def not delta 'comfy'. I feel distressed in that world and alive on motorcycles, skiing fast, flinging myself into work, biking in thunderstorms..blahblahblahblah.
And enough of this tired untrue gamma selfish and arrogant stereotype. Gammas literally defined by prediliction for selfsacrifc for greater good. Mm'kuh? Mm'kuh.
Choices, possibilities. This is Ne.
Money and property for ILI are suggestive region. They like to have money, same as costy things. Se seems is not your value.
> I don't need to be better than others
To be stronger gives more possibilities. The state of others is a reference. Also, when you are stronger than others you may lead them, including for your tasks.
> Other people are just... irrelevant, I don't care shit about them
This reminds nonvalued Fi.
You live among people and your state depends from them. You cooperate with them, get their care about you, get their help. You need to care about other people to get that and to make your environment better.
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