Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
The problem with Ni is that it's often wildly off-base (this is a problem Ne also has), and the rest of the time, usually, what it sees isn't particularly obscure. 4D Ni types can have occasional flashes of real brilliance, but 99% of the time, all Ni does is notice shit that other people don't seem to want to notice. I guess this is what you mean by feeling that people don't think.

But if even IxI have such problems getting through to people, I wonder what Ni demonstrative types are supposed to do. IxI at least have the benefit of a rational extraverted function; xII just have Ne as our only decent extraverted function. Which doesn't really speak the language of Ni, and isn't really taken seriously by people who aren't Ne types in the first place (no matter how successful it makes you, it seems "weird," "childish," "unserious," and so on). So how does an xII push people into noticing things they don't seem to want to notice? And to be honest we have our own problems with Ni anyway. Holding it in mind for long is hard, and especially putting its vision into clear speech is draining.

There have been a lot of times I've wanted to get through to people. I don't think I've ever been able, or even really changed someone's trajectory. At least Cassandra caused some drama and got locked up for a while. I often feel more like a ghost, unable to substantively change anything at all.

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Now that I think about it, I wonder if a reason IxI aren't taken seriously is their own tendency to seem "weird." I think IxI can be a little myopic, maybe because of Ne ignoring. But this, and the times N can be wrong, get used often to justify ignoring common sense by people who should know better.
Clear and direct communication is the only path I see forward for anyone who shares either or as their "intuitive" function and the insights it brings with those who just don't "get it" like we do.

Part of what I was getting at was that what is "obvious" to most people is only obvious to themselves alone. Your "obvious" hints are only obvious because you are the one giving them to the other person and you aren't able to conceive of the possibility that others are NOT just like you!

Again, this was a very, oh so very hard lesson for me to learn and I only did so because I learned it the hard way. Yet now I have. I'm a lot less angry at other people now.