Socionics' Quadra titles and Aldous Huxley's Brave New World

[Creepy-male]

And why do you think / is connected to an intellectual bias? That would also apply to Alpha-SFs and they're not the typical intellectuals imho.

What?

SEIs I know (who aren't me):

• Psychology
• Philosophy and ecology
• Lay philosopher and music theory + multi-instrumentalist and teacher

I'll also be changing to a philosophy major next semester, if I can.

The ESE I know is also doing philosophy and English literature.

I think the less intelligent ones may be less intellectually inclined, but that's intelligence, not type.

Which is not, of course, to say the intellect makes the intellectual, but I've noticed a consistent pattern with intelligent Alpha SFs I know toward intellectualism.

In the case of the SEI, there's actually even a Socionics justification. Si+Ti leads to double-external, highly deliberate thinking, coupled with dynamic/negativist (dialectical-algorithmic) leading to spontaneous insights and a need to resolve cognitive dissonance. Philosophy is highly logical, and uses specific language (or symbolic representations), so is of particular interest to any SEI who spends a long enough time thinking... which is most of absolutely anyone of any type with enough intelligence.

Also, considering the preponderance of Alpha NTs in philosophy, it's little surprise it attracts Alpha SFs like flies to a dead horse

P.S. inb4gulisILE

[munenori2]

Hmmmmm...

LMAO

What?

SEIs I know (who aren't me):

• Psychology
• Philosophy and ecology
• Lay philosopher and music theory + multi-instrumentalist and teacher

I'll also be changing to a philosophy major next semester, if I can.

Dude, you'll love it. Philosophy was exactly what I needed in college. I didn't have a clue how I fit into the universe or how to make sense of everything. I doubted everything to the point of near nihilism and just kind of floated around from thing to thing that seemed interesting at the moment, but philosophy gave me a lot of clarity about what Truth was and how to go about establishing it. Just having that emphasis on using reason to find eternally true things (or at least highly certain things), made me ok with not having any overarching plans in life because no matter where I found myself I could count on having the big questions resolved (note I didn't say answered) that had thrown me into chaos. Ultimately for me, philosophy was always about attaining a means of living the good life as I sought to define it. I wasn't really cut out for extending the scope of it into the super crazy abstract realms where the focus is today, like philosophy of mind and so on.

Philosophy brought me peace and wisdom, yo.

[Creepy-female]

Dude, you'll love it. Philosophy was exactly what I needed in college. I didn't have a clue how I fit into the universe or how to make sense of everything. I doubted everything to the point of near nihilism and just kind of floated around from thing to thing that seemed interesting at the moment, but philosophy gave me a lot of clarity about what Truth was and how to go about establishing it. Just having that emphasis on using reason to find eternally true things (or at least highly certain things), made me ok with not having any overarching plans in life because no matter where I found myself I could count on having the big questions resolved (note I didn't say answered) that had thrown me into chaos. Ultimately for me, philosophy was always about attaining a means of living the good life as I sought to define it. I wasn't really cut out for extending the scope of it into the super crazy abstract realms where the focus is today, like philosophy of mind and so on.

Philosophy brought me peace and wisdom, yo.

Wow, now I really want to take philosophy.

Re the original post, I read A Brave New World awhile back. I found it rather nihilistic and depressing, though I don't think I knew the definition of nihilism at the time. All I knew is that finishing it made me feel kinda sick and confused about life.

My memory of it goes something like, "Lots of confusing numbers. Dr. So and So examines a test tube. We live in a Giver-esque society. Creepy New Age Girl, with her creamy white skin, exists like some kind of living doll in a bubble suit. The scrawny Indian in the Cupboard was mesmerized with Baby Spice after living a nomadic existence with lots of normally aging hags. We party it up and take lots of Soma. Bernard flies around on a spaceship. Now she screams. Or he screams. Someone screams. Someone looks up at the sky. Oh the nihilism of life! The end."

At the time I was reading it, I was still learning Socionics, so the quadra name associations kept popping up in my head. I couldn't help it. I totally understand if that happened to you. After Socionics, reading about the light spectrum is a pain, too.

[Sir Knight]

Wow, now I really want to take philosophy.

Re the original post, I read A Brave New World awhile back. I found it rather nihilistic and depressing, though I don't think I knew the definition of nihilism at the time. All I knew is that finishing it made me feel kinda sick and confused about life.

My memory of it goes something like, "Lots of confusing numbers. Dr. So and So examines a test tube. We live in a Giver-esque society. Creepy New Age Girl, with her creamy white skin, exists like some kind of living doll in a bubble suit. The scrawny Indian in the Cupboard was mesmerized with Baby Spice after living a nomadic existence with lots of normally aging hags. We party it up and take lots of Soma. Bernard flies around on a spaceship. Now she screams. Or he screams. Someone screams. Someone looks up at the sky. Oh the nihilism of life! The end."

At the time I was reading it, I was still learning Socionics, so the quadra name associations kept popping up in my head. I couldn't help it. I totally understand if that happened to you. After Socionics, reading about the light spectrum is a pain, too.

Personally, I really enjoyed Brave New World. It was all about outcasts and weirdos trying to find a kind of individuality in a perfect "conformist" world. It had some neat ideas about the future and an expectedly depressing ending.

Also there was the part where the Delta clone children go to watch the Savage's mother die. That was possibly one of the best "Chiller" moments I've read in a novel.

[Gilly]

Philosophy brought me peace and wisdom, yo.

lawl keep reading

[Gilly]

Brave New World was sick. I wanna try Soma.

[Gilly]

I just hope one of these dystopian scenarios comes to pass in my lifetime so i can play hero and kill the government. Fighting against a swirling morass of demi-converts and part-time conformists is confusing and demoralizing; I want someone to shoot at.

[Lotus]

Brave New World was sick. I wanna try Soma.

mhm

[munenori2]

lawl keep reading

lol