In Brave New World these titles only exist to indicate a person's abilities.
In socionics they don't.
In Brave New World these titles only exist to indicate a person's abilities.
In socionics they don't.
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I don't understand why you guys have to come in here and contaminate shit. All I'm asking for is relevant discussion, if you can't provide that, just don't even post. There are tons of other threads to wank in, seriously.
Just let the damn thread die on it's own, if it's really that stupid of a topic. I know "Socionics is srs business", "ur butthurt blah blah" but damn, I mean come on? Grow up.
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I don't really see a basis for discussion in your thread title. It's just a coincidence that both systems use the same terms. I guess there is not much more to say about it.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
More than having the same terms, look at the associations.
In Brave New World:
Alpha/Beta are the intellectuals, specifically Alpha. Grounds for / bias.
Gamma/Delta are the mechanical types, lower-class and industrial. Grounds for / bias.
Is the similarity not at all apparent?
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Yea, but there's a difference between Alpha NT intellect and Gamma NT intellect. What I'm saying is that Alpha NT intellect is the Alpha caste intellect of Brave New World, not one a 1:1 correlation, of course, but that there are similarities.
I'm curious as to how these two sets of Quadras - one fictional and one non-fictional, came to be this similar, even if only on the surface through denotation.
Yea I know, but I think the assignment of mechanical jobs can be related to , or "Work" in the IM element sense. Whereas the Alphas and Betas of Brave New World do not have such a heavy concentration of industriousness because of /.And in Brave New World, these titles make a statement about the quality and the abilities of the people. That means Gammas/Deltas just have mechanical jobs because they're not capable of doing something else.
I'd be hard-pressed to believe I'm the only one who's aware of the intellectual bias of / as they relate to the Alphas in Socionics, and also the factory & mass production machinist biases of / as they relate to Gamma and Delta.And why do you think / is connected to an intellectual bias? That would also apply to Alpha-SFs and they're not the typical intellectuals imho.
Basically, it's just a coincidence and nothing more.
Last edited by EyeSeeCold; 05-03-2011 at 11:55 PM.
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