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    According to Bulkov in the Journal of Psychology, Menology and Personality, (Published in Russian by the Socionics Institute of Kiev) supervision is a dangerous relationship because the partners can transfer their "somatic diseases" to each other.

    These are unhealthy obsessions that center on the sublimation of core insecurities about their sexuality which submerge into the subconscious and then reemerge as deviant erotic fixations. He gives no examples. I would guess that this means forms of abusive sexual deviancy could emerge that would not exist with a different type of partner.

    He says stay away from it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    sexual deviancy
    This sounds ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neaks View Post
    ... but f that we're happy!!!
    Sounds like a plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esaman View Post
    Are your types obvious? A few days ago you didn't know your type.
    Miracles happen.

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    Anyone else care to share about their IEE/LII relationship?!
    Nope, never been in such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    These are unhealthy obsessions that center on the sublimation of core insecurities about their sexuality which submerge into the subconscious and then reemerge as deviant erotic fixations.

    He says stay away from it.
    Hey, I love LIIs in lingerie and high heels, OK?
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    Our types show very much however, we appreciate each others way we look at the world because it is so opposite and new to each of us. He is definitely the most docile, gentle and soothing person I know. So as far as violence goes, after a year we have NEVER had anything close to physical altercation. A far as insecurities go.... we are 21 and 25, it's time to let insecurities go and we know this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by applejacks View Post
    By truthfulness, do you mean criticism, or just general directness in delivery of observations?
    Are those things that hurt your ego?
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Are those things that hurt your ego?
    Not necessarily, as I find timing, delivery, and tact are just as more important as the criticism or the observation itself.
    And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30

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    Quote Originally Posted by applejacks View Post
    Not necessarily, as I find timing, delivery, and tact are just as more important as the criticism or the observation itself.
    Oh, did I pick the wrong time to point out the mismatched quote glyphs in your signature?
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Oh, did I pick the wrong time to point out the mismatched quote glyphs in your signature?
    You've already pointed those out, Mr. Perfectionist. Thank you

    (Clearly, I haven't bothered to fix them yet)
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    Quote Originally Posted by applejacks View Post
    You've already pointed those out, Mr. Perfectionist.
    I only did that once.

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    Thank you
    You're welcome.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    I only did that once.
    Twice

    And I'll fix it when I get back, getting ready to road trip for the next few days.
    And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30

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    Supervision relationships aren't terrible, my parents are in a supervision relationship(based on one socionics study, it was one of the top 5 for marriage). Good people will be good people and can have decent if not perfect relationship.

    However, it's not ideal, and there will be many communication differences and problems that can occur in life.

    This is an unequal relationship where generally the supervisee will need to be accommodating to the supervisor or major conflict will occur.

    I have a question are you older or younger than your partner?

    Also in socionics world you would be "super-ego" hurt... ^_^ The LII's Base function is which is a area of pain for the IEE. Good luck with your relationship, my parents have been together for 40+ years and although it's not perfect for them, they still find time to be good to each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by applejacks View Post
    Twice
    Nope. The 'second time' was a question in reference to the first time.

    Quote Originally Posted by applejacks View Post
    And I'll fix it when I get back, getting ready to road trip for the next few days.
    Fix it whenever you please, or don't, it's completely your decision. Have a good time on your road trip.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Nope. The 'second time' was a question in reference to the first time.



    Fix it whenever you please, or don't, it's completely your decision. Have a good time on your road trip.
    Ohh, I gotcha. I swear I've had this conversation many times before.

    My quote section could use a little TLC anyways.

    And thanks! On a random note, Kentucky is really stinky
    And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30

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    I am younger than my partner (im the IEE) by four years... I'm not sure if this helps or hurts but i'm guessing it helps I look to him as a mentor

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    LIIs can make good friends and mentors for an IEE. Difficult at times but totally worth it. I know because my dad is one and we get along pretty well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saberstorm View Post
    According to Bulkov in the Journal of Psychology, Menology and Personality, (Published in Russian by the Socionics Institute of Kiev) supervision is a dangerous relationship because the partners can transfer their "somatic diseases" to each other.

    These are unhealthy obsessions that center on the sublimation of core insecurities about their sexuality which submerge into the subconscious and then reemerge as deviant erotic fixations. He gives no examples. I would guess that this means forms of abusive sexual deviancy could emerge that would not exist with a different type of partner.

    He says stay away from it.
    Wow...I'm gonna have to look into this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by applejacks View Post
    Twice

    And I'll fix it when I get back, getting ready to road trip for the next few days.
    No, you won't, and only your dual (SLI/ISTp) will appriciate that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post
    No, you won't, and only your dual (SLI/ISTp) will appriciate that.
    Some days I wonder how you SLIs can love us beyond these little quirks : )

    And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30

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    It's fixed, but only out of love for duals.

    :]

    And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30

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    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    We're still together - been awhile since I've been on here! I'm back and we're doing great

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    Quote Originally Posted by neaks View Post
    We're still together - been awhile since I've been on here! I'm back and we're doing great
    IEE LII supervision is not bad given the right subtypes it can be actually quite positive. Plus Gulenko talks about conflict even not being conflict given compatible subtypes and also duality is not good in every circumstance since some subtypes are worse than conflict/just as bad.

    Supervision is horrible when perception doesn't match, so IEE ESI, is not great compared to IEE LII yet even with that some subtypes are more compatible.

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