I keep meeting so many girls that try to imitate her, it's getting on my nerves
I keep meeting so many girls that try to imitate her, it's getting on my nerves
Well I am back. How's everyone? Don't have as much time now, but glad to see some of the old gang are still here.
i actually like her flair. but like you, i wish people would get their own style and do their own thing instead of just copying other people.
It's sort of artificial when copied IMO. Plus I don't like her whole attitude, doesn't do it for me. She doesn't seem like a good lay to say the truth. I prefer thoroughness in bedOriginally Posted by implied
Well I am back. How's everyone? Don't have as much time now, but glad to see some of the old gang are still here.
dual seeking perhaps.
Paris Hilton... I wonder why people worship individuals like that? *Severe opinions reserved*
PS: ! Hmm, I was compelled to tear up Hilton in regards to why she is a detriment to society. I suppose that would have been a more LSI thing to do, huh.
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~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Paris Hilton... I wonder why people worship individuals like that? *Severe opinions reserved*
PS: ! Hmm, I was compelled to tear up Hilton in regards to why she is a detriment to society. I suppose that would have been a more LSI thing to do, huh.you're ISTj-ing yourself into a corner.
what is perceived as "bitchiness" i think is usually just sort of an "Fp" quality.
and not really doing much but just being lazy/having fun/partying with no real "life goals" is not exactly characteristic of
I know plenty of bitchy ESFjs .. eek! *runs* But um.. ESFps... you've basically just described them... and their dominant function is Se. Most of the ESFps I know just like to have fun.
Paris Hilton... I wonder why people worship individuals like that? *Severe opinions reserved*
PS: ! Hmm, I was compelled to tear up Hilton in regards to why she is a detriment to society. I suppose that would have been a more LSI thing to do, huh.
what is perceived as "bitchiness" i think is usually just sort of an "Fp" quality.
and not really doing much but just being lazy/having fun/partying with no real "life goals" is not exactly characteristic of
oh god, so do i! the non-cheerleadery types can be pretty bitchy. i'm not entirely sure it can be attributed to anyone function alone! but i still think paris is an intuitive!seeking >
seeking. i don't think she /wants/ direction or really needs it!
in regards to your liking her -- she's just a likeable gal.
I haven't paid much attention to her before, but I just watched the recent Larry King interview:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGSuXiCsbZw[/youtube]
I think aemphasis or preference is pretty apparent. Really no
there at all. I'm inclined to think SEE or maybe ESI.
What she doesn't like about herself (question): "That my voice gets high when I'm nervous"
(I can't believe all this ADD stuff!)
It is easier for the eye of a camel to pass through a rich man than for a needle to enter the kingdom of heaven.
For some.
I know an ESFp who idolized her. I do not share that same level of affection for Ms. Hilton.
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If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
she's allright.. I think Nicole Richie has way more personality
Wow, haha.. she does seem quite sane. And yes, I def agree with the Fi > Fe preference. I really think she is Gamma instead of DeltaI haven't paid much attention to her before, but I just watched the recent Larry King interview:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGSuXiCsbZw[/youtube]
I think a
What she doesn't like about herself (question): "That my voice gets high when I'm nervous"
(I can't believe all this ADD stuff!)
Heh...yeah, safe to say Paris Hilton doesn't value Si
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I think ESFp is more likely than ISFj. But I agree with Rick, she's one of the two.
She might be my dual
Her first real taste of reality, yes - she must feel like she has been through a lot.
Now she gets to say "You're not built like me - you never lived in a cell!!"
She got no critical letters? I should have sent her one.
Letters from soldiers in Iraq - giving her support: that just does not seem right. Your motivation to go to war is to endorse the lifestyle of people like Hilton? Wow - that is certainly a new take on patriotism......
+9,999,999 for that guy's reaction at the very end of the video clip, when he heard Paris was being relocated "NOoooOOOO!!!". That is the appropriate response.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
To me, Paris Hilton is the epitome of a Gamma lifestyle gone overboard: lots of extravagance + no regard for public image.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Yeah i dont think shes an ENFp. I saw a few episodes of the simple life and she seemed like a bit of a bitch, far removed from an ENFp. Even though it was all for show.
I must admit im one of those "i hate paris hilton types". Probablly its tall poppy syndrome. People resent her for her money. In my opinion she has a weak personality, no more of a personality than people i meet every day. She is so famous not because of her personality but because shes mega wealthy. People just want to be rich. Shes good looking, thats a double whammy.
That being said i think she does use Fi. Shes exceptionally good at keeping herself in the spotlight and shes playing her "i learnt something from my jail experience Fi card perfectly. She may even believe it
SEE
My god that shits me
ENFp (Unsure of Subtype)
"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
hahaha yea i agree with this, like she really learned something in the what 24 hours since she's been released. what she learned is how uncomfortable jail is especially when compared to her pampered posh lifestyle.Yeah i dont think shes an ENFp. I saw a few episodes of the simple life and she seemed like a bit of a bitch, far removed from an ENFp. Even though it was all for show.
I must admit im one of those "i hate paris hilton types". Probablly its tall poppy syndrome. People resent her for her money. In my opinion she has a weak personality, no more of a personality than people i meet every day. She is so famous not because of her personality but because shes mega wealthy. People just want to be rich. Shes good looking, thats a double whammy.
That being said i think she does use Fi. Shes exceptionally good at keeping herself in the spotlight and shes playing her "i learnt something from my jail experience Fi card perfectly. She may even believe it
SEE
it's ok princess....now you've experienced the dark side....
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
Yes! Plus the need to be involved in some kind of "work" rather than just enjoy her wealth and have fun.
Good point.Yes! Plus the need to be involved in some kind of "work" rather than just enjoy her wealth and have fun.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
bold text = correction
OK, going against the grain here. I don't think she's gamma, nor delta. Have typically considered INFp-Fe or else maybe ENFj, when seeing pieces of her flashed in the media. But I don't know a ton about her.
During the interview, her speech is more fluid and she exudes more confidence when speaking in vague and conceptual terms versus sensate particulars. This reinforces N > S, in general.
Also, in the first interview, she (predictably) expresses getting in touch with herself. Obviously, being in jail, this is something everyone would probably be forced to do. The activity itself is inherently Fi > Fe (e.g., who am I and what do I want, etc., what is my conscience telling me (Fi) - vs. what image am I projecting, what are my relationships with others and society and the nature of our interactions, etc. (Fe)). However, the way she talks about it, it sounds like "going within" is not a typical activity for her anyway.
Plus, my instincts have often told me that she is the kind of person who is VERY aware of the image she's projecting and the influence she's having on other people ~ and, is able to use her persona to her advantage (e.g., to enhance her popularity among fans) in order to maintain her sudden and accidental rise to success (the basis of which, APART from her persona/image, remains a mystery to most). (And all this despite her meek countenance in this interview which may superficially suggest Fi > Fe "sincerity"/emotional vulnerability. It seems like, with her, that is a necessary part of her public image that she CHOOSES to present yet ultimately for the sake of image ... the tension inherent in the "innocent, bewildered/unsuspecting porn star" dichotomy entices some. So, Fi vs. Fe might appear a little weird in her case ... as her suggestive displays of Fi seems to be a deliberate tool of Fe.)
(Incidentally, when she described her room, though, she did so from a seemingly fluid framework ... connecting the objects tangentially wrt their position, in her memory. Seems Si > Se (i = continuity/field, e = shifts/dynamics), in that instance ... may not seem very socionics-ish, but Si sort of seems like a gateway into the unconscious for Ni dominants (e.g., a common part of their defense mechanisms) and Si will be greater than Se for them, despite being from "Se quadras".)
Even though the basic nature of her experience in jail would reinforce Fi > Fe themes, she still seemed to express more natural Fe > Fi awareness when she did talk about her relationship with others ... i.e., she seems more naturally aware of her relationship to others than her relationship with herself and subjective inner priorities. (By the way, when a celebrity is asked, "why do you think {YOU HAVE FANS}" it is a pretty typical, canned media response for one to give an innocent, "I don't know ... I just live my life and do what I do ... " whether it's true or not, because being "oblivious to efforts your fame" enhances one's image of being "naturally adept" and lends a certain "untouchable" quality to the persona.So I wouldn't take her response there too seriously.)
Even though these random bits laid out so far do not fully give weight to all of my impressions, I'm still tempted to think she is INFp-Fe, for now.
Yes, it is a good point.Good point.Yes! Plus the need to be involved in some kind of "work" rather than just enjoy her wealth and have fun.
But "enjoying wealth and having fun" would get old for ANYone sooner or later, wouldn't it?
I didn't know you could VI those bits :wink:
I hear she has become very concerned about dental hygiene as of late....
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
okay, i see the points for
@expat - yeah she could be my dual as well. <3 i find her charming.
anyone have an opinion on nicole ritchie?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l0VQEBG3ts[/youtube]
yeah... she's hawt!
Haha, I like her less than Paris but she does seem more affable in a way. More use ofokay, i see the points for
@expat - yeah she could be my dual as well. <3 i find her charming.
anyone have an opinion on nicole ritchie?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l0VQEBG3ts[/youtube]
I like your thinking here... you've gone into a lot of depthOK, going against the grain here. I don't think she's gamma, nor delta. Have typically considered INFp-Fe or else maybe ENFj, when seeing pieces of her flashed in the media. But I don't know a ton about her.
During the interview, her speech is more fluid and she exudes more confidence when speaking in vague and conceptual terms versus sensate particulars. This reinforces N > S, in general.
Also, in the first interview, she (predictably) expresses getting in touch with herself. Obviously, being in jail, this is something everyone would probably be forced to do. The activity itself is inherently Fi > Fe (e.g., who am I and what do I want, etc., what is my conscious telling me (Fi) - vs. what image am I projecting, what are my relationships with others and society and the nature of our interactions, etc. (Fe)). However, the way she talks about it, it sounds like "going within" is not a typical activity for her anyway.
Plus, my instincts have often told me that she is the kind of person who is VERY aware of the image she's projecting and the influence she's having on other people ~ and, is able to use her persona to her advantage (e.g., to enhance her popularity among fans) in order to maintain her sudden and accidental rise to success (the basis of which, APART from her persona/image, remains a mystery to most). (And all this despite her meek countenance in this interview which may superficially suggest Fi > Fe "sincerity"/emotional vulnerability. It seems like, with her, that is a necessary part of her public image that she CHOOSES to present yet ultimately for the sake of image ... the tension inherent in the "innocent, bewildered/unsuspecting porn star" dichotomy entices some. So, Fi vs. Fe might appear a little weird in her case ... as her suggestive displays of Fi seems to be a deliberate tool of Fe.)
(Incidentally, when she described her room, though, she did so from a seemingly fluid framework ... connecting the objects tangentially wrt their position, in her memory. Seems Si > Se (i = continuity/field, e = shifts/dynamics), in that instance ... may not seem very socionics-ish, but Si sort of seems like a gateway into the unconscious for Ni dominants (e.g., a common part of their defense mechanisms) and Si will be greater than Se for them, despite being from "Se quadras".)
Even though the basic nature of her experience in jail would reinforce Fi > Fe themes, she still seemed to express more natural Fe > Fi awareness when she did talk about her relationship with others ... i.e., she seems more naturally aware of her relationship to others than her relationship with herself and subjective inner priorities. (By the way, when a celebrity is asked, "why do you think {YOU HAVE FANS}" it is a pretty typical, canned media response for one to give an innocent, "I don't know ... I just live my life and do what I do ... " whether it's true or not, because being "oblivious to efforts your fame" enhances one's image of being "naturally adept" and lends a certain "untouchable" quality to the persona.
Even though these random bits laid out so far do not fully give weight to all of my impressions, I'm still tempted to think she is INFp-Fe, for now.
I'll need to watch more of her to be able to answer you.
To me she seems to fit more in the Britney Spears category (they seem to be friends, according to The Internet) than as a sort of IEI-type "sidekick" :-)
Also, is anyone aware that Paris is actually a hard-working businesswoman, and not just a spoiled rich kid?
It is easier for the eye of a camel to pass through a rich man than for a needle to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Some sort of ethical extrovert, definitely
ESFj, ENFj, ESFp, ENFp
Yes far more into
Perhaps they're both ESFp and Paris was into low
she's quite funny. more
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K7g9lBHIzc[/youtube]
yeah Nichole Richie I have a totally positive reaction to (as does my best friend who's supposedly ESFj) neither one of us likes Paris in the slightest though. And honestly those are judgements made on their personalities as they come across in that Simple Life show (knowing full well it's scripted and edited to look a certain way) Based on that I'd say she's a different quadrashe's quite funny. more
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K7g9lBHIzc[/youtube]
Ok, then ESFj which was actually my very first thought
When she talks, she sounds almost exactly like my friend Michelene...o_o INFp I think for Mich >.> She has the deer-in-the-headlights thing going on...she even has a tattoo of a deer silhouette heheh
SEE Unknown Subtype
6w7 sx/so
[21:29] hitta: idealism is just the gap between the thought of death
[21:29] hitta: and not dying
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shes needs the Doubledix
UDP with the assist, BG with the dunk. Very good.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
it just took me awhileUDP with the assist, BG with the dunk. Very good.
oke it's late, my eyes getting smaller, something tells me....Paris Hilton is an ISTP (SLI)
I just wanna know, is it a possibility?
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