Final Poll for Jinxi's Type

[EyeSeeCold]

INXp is obvious enough. I would think INFp for him, but there's a few things wrong with that typing—the crux of which being that I have a difficult time conceiving him as an ego, given that he's not terribly emotive and seems to completely ignore the affective dimensions of his own interpersonal behavior. Whereas egos usually have a better working knowledge of how they come off interpersonally, and tend to demonstrate a greater frequency of active awareness in utilizing such dynamics for deliberate effect.

Or maybe it's one big deliberation.

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[Creepy-]

For some reason, I think ILI now. Maybe. Anyway, that's what I voted.

[silke]

How many Ni-IEIs do you know? How sure are you that you've typed them correctly? Where did I say that I relate to Ni+Ti the most? INTJ forum is comprised of false INTJs.

Show me a video of yourself or any other Ni-IEIs.

Three in real life and several on forums. Pretty sure they use intuition of time extensively in combination with extraverted ethics and introverted logic. You said that in chat. Quite obviously INTJ forums is full of false INTJs. You're the only true INTJ, huh. I can't be bothered to make videos and sure as hell not going to go filming other people for sake of your typing.

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[silke]

Can you stop being a bitch? It's annoying as fuck.

Actually answer the questions.

I did, not my problem you don't like the answers.

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[silke]

You suffer from a severe case of snowflake syndrome.

Your point of reference is yourself - That doesn't work here.

You're full of yourself. Get out of the thread.

And you suffer a case of being a spoiled pushy brat. You have asked for help with your typing and I have tried to help you. There is no other point of reference for socionics besides each person's personal observations because you can't prove any of this shit for sure, you can only reference yourself what what you have observed and what you know. If you can't deal with that, don't study it and forget about your type.

[Jinxi]

And you suffer a case of being a spoiled pushy brat. You have asked for help with your typing and I have tried to help you. There is no other point of reference for socionics besides each person's personal observations because you can't prove any of this shit for sure. If you can't deal with that, don't study it and forget about your type.

[silke]

some random crap

weird, that wasn't a video of yourself - why don't you post 367th video of yourself and then tell other people how they suffer case of special snowflake

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[stray]

I voted ILI. Probably Ni-sub. At the very least, you're a bigger shit-stirrer than IEIs usually are. You also seem to be devoid of any affect in your videos (regardless of how intense or passionate you may come across in writing).

I could be wrong, but whatever.

[DividedsGhost]

[silke]

INXp is obvious enough. I would think INFp for him, but there's a few things wrong with that typing—the crux of which being that I have a difficult time conceiving him as an ego, given that he's not terribly emotive and seems to completely ignore the affective dimensions of his own interpersonal behavior. Whereas egos usually have a better working knowledge of how they come off interpersonally, and tend to demonstrate a greater frequency of active awareness in utilizing such dynamics for deliberate effect.

Sometimes when I type people I run into cases where their IE development does not correspond to what is 'socionicaly' prescribed. Most prominent cases are where they are lacking in their creative element and instead fall back on their mobilizing IE. However, it also becomes apparent to others that there is something disturbing about their behavior, something is just off about their personality. This is because this leading-mobilizing conjunction also leads to certain cognitive distortions and unexpected behaviors. In introverts it lead to stronger introversion and avoidant, schizotypal, shizoid, or paranoid personality features. In severe cases it manifests as a full blown personality disorder. This kind of non-standard development presents special challenges when trying to type such personalities, because all you can see is their dominant element and mobilizing which gets mistaken for their creative, leading to incorrect typing.

I've read through Jinxi past posts and he has admitted to being clinically depressed, having social anxiety, and having paranoid features. He said that he might be offensive on the internet, but in person he simply doesn't talk(!). In addition several times he has commented about his broken sleep cycle. All of this points to his lack of extraverted creative element. His introverted perceiving element is ursupring his cognition, while his extraverted judging element is too weak and unable to provide him with focus and integrate him into some kind of external structure. Creative function is also described as "main instrument for interacting with the rest of society" but because his is just not working right he is unable to create this context, he feels that he is unable to create conversation.

If you read through Jinxi's past posts he actually does show Fe on several occasions. In this description of his teacher for example or the way he talks about appreciating and rewarding loyalty in people.

I liked my kindergarten teacher. She was a generous person, possessor of a serene face and really just an honest, kindhearted human being. She treated me fairly even though I am in a minority group. She had a kind, beautiful soul and well, that's the sort of person I am seeking, even though it's kinda hard being a social outcast and all.

I don't think I've really ever hated anyone; I'm just incapable of hating or keeping grudges over the long-term. I forgive everyone, no matter how severe the wrongdoing because I just don't think much of it. To me, material possessions and physical pain are fruitless. However, there are many politicians who I'd love to have sent to prison; These people are just corrupt and dishonest. It's disgusting.

I have gotten into arguments and heated debates in the past where heads have clashed and tears have been shed. I may be bitter for a while but I try to rationalize why I am feeling that way. Do I feel wronged? Certainly. Do I feel like my nucleus has been attacked? Sure. I just move on. Some people cannot be reasoned with.

I am a solitary, taciturn individual who doesn't seek to destroy or build relationships. I just cannot tolerate dishonesty amongst people that I have trusted. Loyalty will always be rewarded with further contact and appreciation. I do "the right thing" when I feel I have to and this is solely dependant on me. I have my own value system.

What leads me to believe that he is IEI is his very prominent Ti hidden agenda. Look at all these posts:

You lied when you wrote this:

Don't answer my question with a question. And don't lie.

She had to be told the truth.

I just cannot tolerate dishonesty amongst people that I have trusted.

So it is true. You're a delusional German.

I'm stating the truth. In countries with homogenous populations and a rich history, the people have a superiority complex.

I will never find the truth so I just try to live a life where I can be left in peace.

That is very prominent Ti hidden agenda here. He is as if crusading for truth and tracking if people are lying.

In addition he seems to have subjective bias against feeling types:

I am logical, not a damned feeler.

... I am not a passive-aggressive wuss. ... I am forthright and blunt. I don't have time to play with their 'feeler questions'.

All in all he is essentially alike ESC who by the way is also lacking in his creative element (interestingly enough both of them self-typed as ILIs). Only unlike ESC Jinxi is leading with an introverted perceiving element while ESC is leading with a Ji element. So while ESC forms judgements very strongly and will defend them tooth and nail, Jinxi's problem is the opposite, being able to make up his mind. He'll tell you all kind of crap about himself to throw you off because having an identity or being pinned to one of 16 types is essentially threatening to his leading Ni that wants to keep possibilities open and his mobilizing element Ti makes him distrustful of other people's intentions. Thus instead of opening up and relating he spends most of his time on forum being critical, joking and trolling around, though on a few occasions he did open up and try to relating to people instead.

[EyeSeeCold]

All in all he is essentially alike ESC who by the way is also lacking in his creative element (interestingly enough both of them self-typed as ILIs). Only unlike ESC Jinxi is leading with an introverted perceiving element while ESC is leading with a Ji element. So while ESC forms judgements very strongly and will defend them tooth and nail, Jinxi's problem is the opposite, being able to make up his mind.

You lost me at "leading with a Ji element".

I'm not an LII lol. I'm ILI, Jinxi is IEI.

/thread.

[Absurd]

I'm not an LII lol. I'm ILI, Jinxi is IEI.

/thread.

Haha! This thread is good. Not exactly fireworks but...

[noid]

Maritsa have a new conclusion he come about after reading more about you :
You are a IEI.

[silke]

You lost me at "leading with a Ji element".

I'm not an LII lol. I'm ILI, Jinxi is IEI.

/thread.

if you want to be a ILI you can be one to yourself, but to several of us here you'll always be a LII

have you tried being LII btw just like for a week to see what it's like?

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[Cuddly McFluffles]

Cool post, Ashton.

I demand Nil heed his promise and post a video today.

I'm banned from his thread.

Probably for trolling on it.

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[Cuddly McFluffles]

Where in my post was there a question? No one asked you, thanks.

You indicated confusion at being banned from it.

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[Creepy-]

Cool post, Ashton.

I demand Nil heed his promise and post a video today.

I'm banned from his thread.

...Yes, I know.

I don't know who banned you from my thread though. It wasn't me.

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[Creepy-]

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...686#post758686

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[Creepy-]

That isn't a good reason.

You asked me for the link where you said you self-typed ILI. There it is.

Valued + Introvert + I don't see any .

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[Creepy-]

I could be a IEI-Ti like siuntal has suggested.

An IEI-Ti would still have Fe use, as it is the creative function. An Ego function. That usually isn't unused. I'm also assuming that you don't have some sort of disorder as siuntal is implying. It is difficult to directly address siuntal's post because I don't know enough to say what one might look like without use of their creative function. I only know, it's not normal.

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[Creepy-]

I'm not too good at distinguishing in writing.

[silke]

I don't have a disorder.

orly? then why have you been mentioning being clinically depressed?

I know next to nothing about Socionics. I was introduced to the MBTI 2 years ago and frequented the INTPf for a while before depression took me and I went apenuts crazy and got banned. I vehemently opposed a new system which with its dogmatic approach and unethical practices pissed me off. I've been clinically depressed. I'm 18 years old and I'm in junior college in the liberal arts program. I hate math. I'm a procrastinator. I have no friends and I spend my days locked up in my room reading, watching movies and following politics - I infer a lot. I'm totally into conspiracy theories - albeit, not the farfetched crazy ones. Oops, all conspiracy theories are farfetched - not in my world. I'm opinionated and I hate god and organized religion. That's about it. I hope I don't overstay my welcome.

I have social anxiety...I had irrational phobias as a child: One night I slept with my blankie covering my face because I feared bugs would enter my orifices, especially the ears. I had nose bleeds for a month after that. I also had a fear of pee entering my eyes, so I refused to pee for a while. Lols, what weird kid. I've never had more than one friend at a time and I am emotionally distant. I may be abrasive over the internet but in the real world...forget it. I just don't talk. I hate large groups and I prefer one-on-one communication...and not with anyone. The only person that I can have a thought-provoking conversation with is my father. We discuss politics, worldly affairs, psychology, symbology, history etc. When I was a teenie weenie little guy, I was a math ace. I was just better and faster at math and everything else. I spoke three languages with great fluency. I still kinda do, but my memory has robbed me of my talents. Sometimes, I don't even remember why I am where I am. I go into trance-like states quite frequently where visions will bombard me for 20-30 minutes or so and I'll see entire film-like visions, stories etc. When I leave that state, I barely recall what it was that I was seeing. I dream everyday. I fly. I kill. I have heart attacks. But I don't know if the character in my dream is me or whether I'm just an observer. Am I watching a film of my subconscious? Or is that me dictating what happens? I just observe. Who knows. I don't believe I've ever believed in god. It just doesn't matter anymore. I will never find the truth so I just try to live a life where I can be left in peace. I do not wish to do harm to others. I do not wish for others to do harm me. I just want to be left alone. It drives me nuts sometimes that I cannot articulate my thoughts, that i cannot interact with others. No one understands me because no one can understand me. All I know is that life is hell. Living and breathing is hell. Death shall liberate me (if I even exist). I had dreams, but they're farfetched and unrealistic. Currently, I'm reading as much as I can. I hate philosophers such as Descartes and Berkeley. I don't give a damn about what they had to say 400 years ago. Society just has to provide jobs to overeducated buffoons who have nothing better to do than lecture on these morons. Although, I truly appreciate Nietzsche's work. It resonates with me. I hope to become an author and live by myself in some desolate location, preferably by a lake. Society doesn't appreciate people like me. Or, rather I cannot accept society's demands and I refuse to adapt. I don't need too much money. I don't need power. This world is what it is. I'll take my slice.

Did I mention that I love watching anime? Well, the good kind. The stories are great. I hope to take the best concepts/themes from the anime that I have read and amalgamate them. Hey, perhaps I'll add some Harry Potter to it as well. I want to create a masterpiece, something to be remembered by. Subtly, I want to make my mark.

Oh, I'm in the library and I have to complete an assignment I had a month to do in...1 hour! Screw schedules. I lost my agenda a long time ago. Thanks for listening. Let's see if I can do this...my Herculean effort will not be futile.

My dress style? I dress like shit, lol. Sad but true, my mom bought my clothing - I was too depressed to get out of the house.

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[silke]

They're not really conspiracy theories, just further exploration into subject matter which is considered taboo in our age.

I'd rather not discuss my depression with someone like you. Thanks.

I didn't ask you to discuss your depression or any of the conspiracy theories you believe in with me. I only asked you why you have claimed to be clinically depressed to the point of not being able to get out of the house in addition to having social anxiety then turned around and denied there being anything wrong. And this is not the first time that you will say one thing then proceed to flip-flop and negate what you have said in past. I know internet provides a convenient cover up where you can say whatever to hide your true identity, but overall this behavior is counterproductive not to mention completely pointless.

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[silke]

I've already told you to get out of the thread. Now's your chance.

only helping you to keep on track with what you say to establish your type

but if my help is no longer wanted I will of course leave as requested

[Jinxi]

It's over.

[silke]

What more do you need to establish?

I'm curious to know what do you yourself think your type is.