Why is Fe manipulative?

[Dioklecian]

Why and how do Fe people manipulate others, drive them crazy, control them, make them sick, make them hate, make them kill themselves and others?

[Angel von Himmel]

Why and how do Fe people manipulate others, drive them crazy, control them, make them sick, make them hate, make them kill themselves and others?

The thing I hate about , especially with people who are dominant is that they have a hugh tendency to go into overdrive and remember everything all the time about what people like to do, and then they expect for people to follow along with making people happy all the time making seem as though they are making up peoples minds for them.

That irritates me to fuck when EXFjs do it ... I can't help but to think "Quit making up peoples minds for them, fuckwit!"

[Creepy-pokeball]

Why and how do Fe people manipulate others, drive them crazy, control them, make them sick, make them hate, make them kill themselves and others?

What are you going on about again... ?

The thing I hate about , especially with people who are dominant is that they have a hugh tendency to go into overdrive and remember everything all the time about what people like to do, and then they expect for people to follow along with making people happy all the time making seem as though they are making up peoples minds for them.

That irritates me to fuck when EXFjs do it ... I can't help but to think "Quit making up peoples minds for them, fuckwit!"

My Fe remembers that rmcnew loves to be bitchy and denotes that for further usage.

Seriously. I'm sick of people demonizing type XXXx every freaking random week. ..!.. bias

[FDG]

I've never experienced anything similar with any Fe person. Your mother is BPD, nothing to do with being Fe.

[Joy]

Why and how do Fe people manipulate others, drive them crazy, control them, make them sick, make them hate, make them kill themselves and others?

this statement is very irritating.

no one can MAKE you do anything. take a little responsibility for yourself.

[Expat]

Why and how do Fe people manipulate others, drive them crazy, control them, make them sick, make them hate, make them kill themselves and others?

Because they're the Devil.

[Creepy-]

Why and how do Fe people manipulate others, drive them crazy, control them, make them sick, make them hate, make them kill themselves and others?

Because they're the Devil.

!!

[Angel von Himmel]

Why and how do Fe people manipulate others, drive them crazy, control them, make them sick, make them hate, make them kill themselves and others?

this statement is very irritating.

no one can MAKE you do anything. take a little responsibility for yourself.

It is a totally valid question considering that Fe people can be pretty manipulative, annoying, and not really realise they are being manipulative and annoying.

[Creepy-pokeball]

Yay for circular logic.

[Joy]

Why and how do Fe people manipulate others, drive them crazy, control them, make them sick, make them hate, make them kill themselves and others?

this statement is very irritating.

no one can MAKE you do anything. take a little responsibility for yourself.

It is a totally valid question considering that Fe people can be pretty manipulative, annoying, and not really realise they are being manipulative and annoying.

But what does that have to do with a person going crazy, being controlled, becoming sick, being hateful, being suicidal, or being homicidal? The only way another person can influence you like that is if you let them.

[Dioklecian]

Tonya Harding

[Olga]

May be because Fe is about playing with emotions, seeing what you can do with it, power to manipulate in a way Ne is power to analyse and play with an obect. Fi is not about playing emotions but directing them the process related to the development and future. That is why ESFJ is comminicator and IFSJ is guardian. I don't know why I come to the conclusion that introverted functions are about development, motion in a direction and future.

[implied]

joy, tonya harding kinda looks like your ex in that picture.

[dreamer]

Fe dominant types knows how to flatter people and make them feel special so when they try to make them do something, it seems like it's for the people's benefit and good interest instead of the Fe's idea. And the other people are so attached to how the Fe types make them feel, they probably want more.

[Dioklecian]

Fe dominant types knows how to flatter people and make them feel special so when they try to make them do something, it seems like it's for the people's benefit and good interest instead of the Fe's idea. And the other people are so attached to how the Fe types make them feel, they probably want more.

Exactly, and how does fear and anxiety fit in with this?

[Rick]

Strictly speaking each type is manipulative or potentially manipulative, but in its own way. Each uses its own weapon to get people around them to submit to their will.

[Dioklecian]

Strictly speaking each type is manipulative or potentially manipulative, but in its own way. Each uses its own weapon to get people around them to submit to their will.

EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO POINT OUT IN THIS FORUM AND PEOPLE WON'T LET ME!

THANK YOU

[dreamer]

For each person, there's always those you can manipulate to either do stuff or think what you want them to think but there are those who can see right through you.

I know an INXP who I think is more INTP who I can convince who I am. I try to convince people how heartless I am sometimes, I don't know why, but it makes me feel strong and in control. But anyway, I can convince him how I like to play games and he seems to agree.

But with the ESTP I knew, I always feel like I'm like...not in control. There's nothing I can do to win. I can come up with something clever but he'll always be one step ahead of me. That is really frustrating. :')

[Joy]

joy, tonya harding kinda looks like your ex in that picture.

She so does!!!

[diamond]

But with the ESTP I knew, I always feel like I'm like...not in control. There's nothing I can do to win. I can come up with something clever but he'll always be one step ahead of me. That is really frustrating. :')

Absolutely! You hit the nail on the head. It gets wearing.

[Dioklecian]

But with the ESTP I knew, I always feel like I'm like...not in control. There's nothing I can do to win. I can come up with something clever but he'll always be one step ahead of me. That is really frustrating. :')

Absolutely! You hit the nail on the head. It gets wearing.

Do they do it on purpose?

[MySaviour]

But with the ESTP I knew, I always feel like I'm like...not in control. There's nothing I can do to win. I can come up with something clever but he'll always be one step ahead of me. That is really frustrating. :')

Absolutely! You hit the nail on the head. It gets wearing.

Do they do it on purpose?

They don't want to be controlled. More than that, they WANT to be in control, they want to have the right responses, and so I guess, yea, they do it on purpose. But I think that after you do something for a while it becomes kinda natural, so you aren't really "conscious" that you are doing it.

[.thursday]

we need to make a thread where each of the functions are described from the pov of someone who has that function as polr. for example ixtp would contribute to a definition of Fe, etc. it would be like the 'mud baths' but for funtions.