If what you've said on irc is correct then you're Ni than a mofo.
I added another pic.
Let's see the rest of the room. It's probably more telling that you gawping at a camera.
Fresh video added.
I am not into sports, lol. Where'd you get that from? Easily frustrated? , no
Don't shoot them stereotypes at me, I am not a stereotypical person and you are not a typical person so we can't be shooting them stereotypes at whoever we like!
Why are you guessing ILI or IEI, you said I was LSI yesterday, plus ISTp and ISTj are radically different.
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I have a hard time seeing IEI/INFp or even β:
One thing is for sure, you're not α or δ either.
- Irrationality stands out for sure.
- -PoLR over -PoLR.
- Victim might explain why it appears you value
- IP temperment might explain why others may see you as IEI/INFp.
- While tests aren't "everything" you do self-type as ILI/INTp, something to consider.
- While not totally significant also, one of my tutors at school is ILI/INTp and your speaking style reminded me of him.
- The overall vibe on video, pictures, and especially your writing style IMO leans towards Negativist.
- Serious and - all the way; your videos just makes this more apparent. (e.g. It looks like you didn't care/pay much attention to the overall "mood" which also ties in with the above point).
Some of the things you've said were + (90-100%), + (70-90%), + (30-50%).
For example, to take one of many things you said in your video, you said (paraphrasing) "...has no practical use" = +/-
As I or anyone could be still wrong, I say:
-ILI/INTp.
Last edited by Timeless; 04-01-2011 at 01:40 AM.
Having conversed with you at length I say Ni-ILI. Timeless's analysis nails it, too.
The ILI train is picking up steam. Where's Ashton to settle this?
Where did I explicitly say that I self-type as ILI?
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By the way, when it comes to tests, I like this one: http://sociotype.com/tests/
But, there's more here though: http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...ion-tests.html
Sociotype: ILI-1Ni
aka INTp, The Critic, , and Intuitive Logical Introvert
Other Possible Types
LIE (ENTj): 69% as likely as ILI
IEI (INFp): 66% as likely as ILI
SLI (ISTp): 53% as likely as ILI
Small Groups:
Quadra: Gamma
Club: Researcher
Temperament: IP
Romance Styles:
Primary: Victim
Secondary: Caregiver
First Tier Dichotomies:
Introverted
Intuitive
Logical (Thinking)
Irrational (Perceiving)
You Functions Information Element Relative Strength Relative Value
Leading Ni 40% 40%
Creative Te 35% 35%
Role Si 10% 10%
Vulnerable Fe 15% 15%
Suggestive Se 10% 40%
Mobilizing Fi 15% 35%
Ignoring Ne 40% 10%
Demonstrative Ti 35% 15%
Ideal Dual
Information Element Relative Strength Relative Value
Se 40% 40%
Fi 35% 35%
Ne 10% 10%
Ti 15% 15%
Ni 10% 40%
Te 15% 35%
Si 40% 10%
Fe 35% 15%
Okay, we'll rule everything but INFp and INTp out now.
Which is it?
Options: INFp, INTp
IMO, that's still over demonstrative.
(You already know what I think)
Consider your dual/semi-dual:
Seriously though, for something different: Are/were there any people in your life that you really liked and really hated? What was it about them that you liked/disliked? The more detail you can provide, the better/more accurate for everybody.
I'm actually a huge Wagner fan, lol.
I liked my kindergarten teacher. She was a generous person, possessor of a serene face and really just an honest, kindhearted human being. She treated me fairly even though I am in a minority group. She had a kind, beautiful soul and well, that's the sort of person I am seeking, even though it's kinda hard being a social outcast and all.
I don't think I've really ever hated anyone; I'm just incapable of hating or keeping grudges over the long-term. I forgive everyone, no matter how severe the wrongdoing because I just don't think much of it. To me, material possessions and physical pain are fruitless. However, there are many politicians who I'd love to have sent to prison; These people are just corrupt and dishonest. It's disgusting.
I have gotten into arguments and heated debates in the past where heads have clashed and tears have been shed. I may be bitter for a while but I try to rationalize why I am feeling that way. Do I feel wronged? Certainly. Do I feel like my nucleus has been attacked? Sure. I just move on. Some people cannot be reasoned with.
I am a solitary, taciturn individual who doesn't seek to destroy or build relationships. I just cannot tolerate dishonesty amongst people that I have trusted. Loyalty will always be rewarded with further contact and appreciation. I do "the right thing" when I feel I have to and this is solely dependant on me. I have my own value system.
I remember that in the chatbox thing, you said "Go <team name>!" or something, and someone assumed it was sports, and I went along with that assumption. I guess it's possible that someone else said it and I got mixed up...
Eh, I don't know... I suppose it was just the way you interacted with me at first that made me think LSI. Although, the way you interact now is a little different.Don't shoot them stereotypes at me, I am not a stereotypical person and you are not a typical person so we can't be shooting them stereotypes at whoever we like!
Why are you guessing ILI or IEI, you said I was LSI yesterday, plus ISTp and ISTj are radically different.
But I VI'd you as IEI or ILI, based on your appearance. The video you posted gives me the distinct impression that you're an ILI based on your mannerisms and inflections. Well, that or LII... depending on how bad my interpretation of Socionics is.
I'm pretty confident that you would be INTJ in MBTI terms, after seeing your video. You're one of the most INTJ people I've ever seen. Real INTJs are clear Ni dominant types, people who are more confused between T/F than S/N... people whose mental openness is internal, but who are not truly closed-minded. Many who think they are INTJ are INTP, ISTJ, or ENTJ... some even further off.
Most of the guys on INTJ forum aren't really INTJs... plenty of INFJs, ISTJs, and INTPs... maybe even a few INFPs. So don't be too shocked that you didn't fit in, most people are mistyped.
Last edited by mirrorsoul; 04-01-2011 at 04:14 AM.
Thanks for your opinion, it is appreciated. +1.
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I was actually a huge statistics buff as a child. I'd take the sports section of the newspaper and keep track of baseball statistics. I was also quite athletic and played some sports recreationally. Hockey is Canada's national sport and naturally, I've been exposed to it my entire life and so I follow my team. Kinda fun how loyal I am to my shitty team. I follow them even when they're shit and I refuse to switch allegiances. I'm not fully invested in the teams because I kinda dislike the owners that are always profiting, but at the same time, my statistics obsession needs to be satiated.
When I was a kid, I had a similar obsession... but not with numbers. Rather, with systems. For instance, I was obsessed with the classifications on the Periodic Table of Elements, the original 150 Pokemon and types/weaknesses, and the structure of my computer operating system. For instance, what various files and programs did, and why... I would edit the autoexec.bat and config.sys files in random ways and then test various programs to see what happened when I changed the configuration.
The difference is, instead of being obsessed with statistics, I was obsessed with structure... but it seems to be a similar focus in some way.
Although, one odd thing... I've been exposed to football and Super Bowls and such. But I've never become interested. I just keep rolling my eyes and complaining that sports are contrived, with rules that play out in predictable scenarios, and that the outcome of a game has no real meaning.
To be honest, playing sports would probably be entertaining, but I'm not physical enough to do that. What I like... are video games. While contrived, I have some control over the action. In watching sports, you have no control, and there's no story, nothing that seems to have meaning. You're just watching something happen that doesn't involve or affect you at all. I suppose that's why I don't get it...
I played video games, but I was never interested. So you level up to 100. Then what? You complete a quest. Then what? These games are superfluous. If I started a game, I'd leave half-way due to frustration. I need a result. I need a goal that is greater than the game itself. Games can't give me that, and I was never any good at them. My reflexes were sloppy. And my eyes would too easily tire.
I am tired. O.O.
Yeah, I kind of know what you mean, there. I used to enjoy the level grinding, but now I'm sort of starting to see it the way you do after having played several, several games. I feel a bit silly for having enjoyed that. Now, I mostly enjoy action-adventure games where you don't level up. The main thing that draws me into a game these days, is the feeling of immersion.
Basically, the game has to create a world that feels so real, that I think about it even when I'm not playing. That's what makes accomplishing things in game satisfying... it becomes like an interactive story, almost. The best example would be Ocarina of Time... or similar games. The best kind of game, is one that can give you nightmares or have you checking around corners in real life... because it felt SO real in your mind.
But anyway... I'm kind of tired as well. I'm about to go to bed, actually.
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You make good typing material. You have korpsey typing you same type as crazie rat, which is still(?) IEI, then typing you the same type as EyeSeeCold, which is now LII just to type you ILI, his own type. How does it feel ?
(i)NTFS
An ILI at rest tends to remain at rest
and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI
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Bug off ESC, you can't type anyone.
Waiting for some solid replies
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An ILI at rest tends to remain at rest
and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/request
re·quest
[ri-kwest] Show IPA
–noun
1.
the act of asking for something to be given or done, especially as a favor or courtesy; solicitation or petition
Anyway yeah I think IEI is pretty clear dude.
Cre / Dem vs Cre / Dem
The former is definitely apparent. F>T
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ESC, why you try to confuse?
We will all be corpses by then.
I understand partly as "Influence" and partly as "Allies".
I understand partly as "Business" and "" partly as "Understanding".
In order for Cre "X" to work, Dem "Y" must be assumed.
The way you came in here and up til now was some smooth influencing and you assumed you had "Allies" when you attacked Maritsa. I don't see that with ILI.
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An ILI at rest tends to remain at rest
and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI
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Okay, but both INTp and INFp have , yet one connects with and the other connects with .
I just fail to see the emphasis on "Business" > "Influence". INTp is still possible, just not probable from my perspective.
IEI is my typing and I don't think it will ever change, so I'll let it be disproved in favor of INTp or w/e that is likely.
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An ILI at rest tends to remain at rest
and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI
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