lolOriginally Posted by Aquagraph
lol
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Maritsa.. I normally hate the way many people act towards you here, but.. Having that holier than thou attitude is really grating, especially when what you are doing shows that you are no better. Your example is an example of abuse more than it is childish(although it is childish. But that's not a word I would choose to describe that situation, other words would do better). What you said to marie was very bitchy and I'm not sure what you are trying to prove by denying it when inkstrider pointed it out. Turning the tables on strider doesn't make your own comment any better. What marie said wasn't even insulting, she said that you value Fe... Ignoring her because of that is unnecessary, and that comment you made was just rude and marie did not deserve it.
Fair enough.
oh, right, to address the op: my favorite member, maritsa...i've settled on some extreme version of isfp-fe for you
What's with everyone putting Maritsa in Alpha lately!
Thank you for changing this.
He is going to go through the entire palette soon.
Aquagraph - ILE
NewBornStar - EIE
Absurd - Delta ST
She's being antagonistic because she wants to push her will on me and make it seem as though her opinion counts when it doesn't. This is my PoLR, you tell me if it's Si PoLR. I WILL NEVER REMOVE HER FROM MY IGNORE LIST.
"Exposure with objects, like clothes, and people, stresses me out and I need to go hide out, hibernate for a few days, rehydrate, and relax before I can do it again.
I never ignore my comfort or my needs in pursuit of doing things and going places."
@Minde,
EII make conclusive statements.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
How about this post:
Does this make me Fe?
" Dolphin is SeFi; before anything can pass to Fi it's first through Se;
Fi is an outline and a hollow space; the outline is the developed moral code by which the person uses to judge (and yes, we are very rigid and categorical). An example of this is, I have formed my moral ideal of a loving relationship which consists of a couple who cares for one another and who shows their love with kindness, such as holding hands and other gestures of affection, especially in public; that is the black outline of Fi; the hollow space is filled with and when I observe relationships in reality and that helps affirm my ideal (the outline) of the morally formed ideal of relationship/conduct/tradition. SeFi types are firstly, more concerned with experiencing with objects than of doing what I do first. And, FiSe types are too concerned about reality of what's going on in their immediate environment to do any (looking past the concrete for meanings). In order to embody an ideal one must live it and with trying to surround themselves with people who meet her ideals or working with them to bring them to societal ideals because societal ideals can become the black framework of which Fi operates (as I've said above).
There's also a personal relation to Fi, but one still tied to other human beings and objects; being a function which rids itself of objects and absorbs a few things into the depths of emotions, Fi has the capability, like me to sit across from a person, say who has Parkinson's, who she observes to shake and the very object of this person shaking is absorbed in her to deep levels so much so that the Fi mimics the reaction and may even, if it was ok to display this mirror like reaction, to do the very act of it herself (but in modern context this is seen and viewed as "not nice"); the very outside comes in and it sinks so deep that there becomes born an individual just like the one across from her inside as there is one on the outside, in front of her. Because of this, the Fi base type can not be around people as they are objects for long, she/I absorb them like a sponge and carry their pain deep inside of me because as soon as a person's born inside, it's not going to be removed.
Now, the darkness to the Fi comes again with absorbing of a negative character/person/object deep within them and not being able to shake them off as something objective and outside themselves this results in lashes/confusingly mean things to come out.
Fe types are object seeking in their atmospheres not have a moral formed idea to accept and judge external relationships and situations on."
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Personally I haven't figured out if you are EIE, EII, or some other type.
And who are you to judge whether her opinion counts? Please. Get off that high horse you are on. You are being too harsh to ignore her simply based on that one statement. Unless this is ongoing and she has acted antagonistic towards you before, and if that is the case, why didn't you ignore her then? Why choose to do it when she says you are an Fe type? I'm just confused; I don't pay much attention to how marie has previously treated you, so this situation seems like you are the one acting rude, not her.
Don't be rude to forum Marie84 Maritsa, you can fall asleep and never wake up.
I'm not ignoring her NOW that she's saying I'm an Fe; she's said that before. I choose to ignore her NOW because she's getting way old for me to deal with; I need to overlook her so that I can concentrate on the things that really matter; everyone else interested in her can still read her posts. I, on the other hand, don't care to pay any attention to her.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Makes sense.
Maritsa, what's-like in you?
“I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life. - Osama bin Laden
I won't disagree that what an expert is in Socionics is debatable, so it perhaps was not the best example on my part, but there are however foundational sources for how information elements are defined. Whether they're *correct* or not is really not the point.
A better comparison would be how Socionics has its own systematic foundations just as MBTI or Keirsey so; the objective is not to squabble about which is more accurate. If you simply don't agree with the veracity of MBTI than you don't join an MBTI forum
Same goes for this place; if Socionics Model A is full of flaws and you feel that there is a better method out there than why post here? Or at the very least, why contribute to type discussions if you don't share a consistent understanding of what a type even is? What is this accomplishing?
I personally have no qualms with anyone putting me on ignore, and I understand her reasoning for doing so, as I have absolutely no issues with calling her, or anyone else for that matter, out on their unverifiable statements and undeserving harassment of other users, two things of which Maritsa does constantly.
The way I see it is that if you're going to run around making conclusive and authoritative statements, especially those which will affect another persons view points, than you should be able to back them-up with sufficient resources. If you cannot do this, and actually show offense at being expected to do so, than you should be called-out on your BS antics
And ftr, the Fe statement was not meant to be offensive, as there's nothing offensive about an IE. I simply found it ironic that someone I see as intensely Fe base to the point of being histrionic would be seen as Fe devaluing
EII INFj
Forum status: retired
Ok heres my list: Typhonix!
Code:O7409 ENFj 3WB Absurd ISTj 9W8 Agapé Ti-ESTp 8W7 Agee Se-ESTp 8W7 Airborne ISTp Aixelsyd Fi-ESFp Ajax Fe-ENFj Allie Se-ISFj Ananke ESTp Annedelise Ne-ENFp Anglas Se-ESFp April Ne-INFj 4W5 Anielka Se-ESFp ArchonAlarion ENTp Ashton Ni-ENTj 7W8 Bardia Fi-ISFj Bionic Ni-ENTj Bionicgoat δ BulletsandDoves Ni-INFp CapitalistPig Te-INTp 5W6 Cone Te-INTp 6 Crazedrat Ni-INFp 4W5 Creepofabeast Ni-ENFj Crispy INTj 5W6 Cyrano Te-ISTp DeAnte Te-ISTp DirectorAbbie ESTj 1W2 Discojoe ISTj 3W4 Divided ENTp Dolphin Fi-ESFp Eunice Ne-INFj Expat Te-ENTj 1 EyeSeeCold INTp FDG Ni-ENTj 7W8 Fenryr Ne-INFj Forcemyhand Te-ISTp Galen Fi-ENFp Gilly Fe-ENFj 3W2 Glamourama Fe-INFp 4WB Golden Fe-ENFj 7W6 Gul Si-ISFp Guy123 Ti-ISTj HaveLucidDreamz Ne-ENTp Herzy Ti-ESTp 7WB hkkmr Ti-ENTp 8W9 Implied Fi-ISFj 2W1 Jenna INFp 4W5 Jessica129 Si-ISTp Jinxi Se-ESFp Joy Fe-ESFj Jughead Ti-ESTp 8 Juju ENFj Kamajama Fe-ISFp K0rspey Te-INTp 5W6 Krae Fe-INFp Krig The Viking Ne-INTj 5W4 Labcoat Ti-INTj 5W6 Lobo δ Loki Se-ESTp Megadoomer Ne-INFj 5W4 Mercutio Se-ESTp 8W7 MisterNi ENTp Morcheeba Ni-ENFj Moredehl Si-ESTj Nanashi Te-INTp 5W6 NewbornSTAR Ni-ENFj 4W3 Nick Ni-INFp 5W4 Niffweed Ni-ENFj 5W6 Octopuslove Ni-INFp Oyburger INTj Parkster Si-ISTp Phaedrus Ni-INTp 5W4 Pianosinger ENFp Plotter ENTp Poli Ne-ENFp 9 redbaron Ni-INFp 4 Sarinana ENFj Scarlettluxx Fe-ENFj 4W3 Slacker Fi-ENFp 7W6 Smilingeyes Ni-ENTj 8W7 Somavision ENFp Squark Se-ISTj Ssmal Fi-ENFp 7W6 Starfall Ni-INFp 4 StevENTj ENTj Subterranean Ti-INTj 5W6 Tcaudilllig Ne-INTj 5 The1981slater Ne-ENTp 7W6 Thehotelambush INTj TheIneffable ENTp Thepirate Fe-INFp 4W3 Tom Si-ESTj Traveller Ne-ENFp Typhon Ni-ENFj 4WB Uniden INFj Uwace Se-ESTp 4W3 Vero Ne-ENTp Walker31 Ni-INFp Woofwoofl Se-ESFp 7W6 WorkaholicsAnon ENFp 2W1 Words Ne-ENFp Xox Si-ESFj Yellow82 ESFj Yaroslaav INTj
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I'm ESFP? lol.
You already told me you didnt agree with that typing, but whatever. *shrugs*
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Oh, interesting. I think that I'll keep my self-typing for now, even though I wouldn't necessarily say that you're my conflictor.Megadoomer Ne-INFj 5W4
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
OK, here's mine.
1981slater: i get him and ashton mixed up, so I think they're ENTx identicals.
Absurd: LSE
Agee: SLE
Agape: EII
Allie, and Dolphin..xSFx gamma identicals i think
anndelise: IEE
BulletsAndDoves: Probably IEI
CatKingCole: Alpha xNTx
crazedrat: IEI
Director Abbie: LSE
Expat: LIE
FDG: LIE
Galen:ego, IEE looks right.
Gilly: EIE
hitta: xNTx
hkkmr: ILE
Inkstrider: Se/Ni valuer xxTx
Jenna: SEI or IEI
Joy: xxTx
Krig The Viking: LII
Maritsa33: EII
MegaDoomer: LII
mercutio: beta ST..not sure which
Minde: EII
Morcheba: EIE
Mountain Dew: ESE
N1cole: Irrational.
Octopuslove: IEI
Parkster: SLI
Pianosinger: IEE
redbaron: beta NF.. not sure which
Reuben: ILE
ScarlettLux: EIE or SEE.. really can't decide
silverchris9: xNFx
squark: Ni/ Se xxTx
Starfall: IEI
tcaudilllg: LII
Typhon: EIE
WorkaholicsAnon: Delta xNFx
WoofwoofL: SEE
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Haha! This is good!
Who is the greatest LSE in world? Did I hear it properly?Absurd: LSE
idk who You are tYpon, but i agree with like 99% of Your list, excluding like jinxi and a few other tYpings. but damn
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
I really wonder what power our self-typing's have over other peoples opinion. I think these lists would be a lot different if we all self typed differently. If I self-typed ESI, I'm almost certain I could convince most of you from day one that that's my type.
You just need to act as if you are. No matter how plastic it may sound to others. Don't think one can hold onto something like that for a prolonged time, though. I mean it isn't natural.
I think that we both like the M1 Abrams
ILE "Searcher"
Socionics: ENTp
DCNH: Dominant
Enneagram: 7w6 "Enthusiast"
MBTI: ENTJ "Field Marshall" or ENTP "Inventor"
Astrological sign: Aquarius
To learn, read. To know, write. To master, teach.
Octopuslove, Starfall, I type both of you SEE type.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Do not try to deny me my dual; you will be punished.
What type are you polikujm
(i)NTFS
An ILI at rest tends to remain at rest
and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI
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My work on Inert/Contact subtypes
Socionics Visual Identification(V.I.) Database
Socionics Tests Database
Comprehensive List of Socionics Sites
Fidei Defensor
Same type as you, IMO.
Ne-INFj
IYO, that is which type?
Oh ok.
(i)NTFS
An ILI at rest tends to remain at rest
and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI
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My work on Inert/Contact subtypes
Socionics Visual Identification(V.I.) Database
Socionics Tests Database
Comprehensive List of Socionics Sites
Fidei Defensor
(i)NTFS
Is that YO on my type?
(i)NTFS
An ILI at rest tends to remain at rest
and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI
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My work on Inert/Contact subtypes
Socionics Visual Identification(V.I.) Database
Socionics Tests Database
Comprehensive List of Socionics Sites
Fidei Defensor
Yes, it is.
Oh ok.
(i)NTFS
An ILI at rest tends to remain at rest
and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI
♫ 31.9FM KICE Radio ♫ *56K Warning*
My work on Inert/Contact subtypes
Socionics Visual Identification(V.I.) Database
Socionics Tests Database
Comprehensive List of Socionics Sites
Fidei Defensor
I totally know what you're referring to. I think it's a different kind of sarcasm from the ILE sarcasm... It's like there's an Fe-sarcasm and a Te-sarcasm.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
Sarcasm is not necessarily Fe because it can be derived from the person's subjective influence of the object out of subconscious, making it an introverted kind of thing.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Maritsa is IEI. Her boyfriend is SEE or something.
lmao what?
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...2-teaching-art
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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