Originally Posted by
discojoe
My view on the usage of the ignoring function is multifaceted.When you are exposed to the ignoring function I think there's a tendency to think, "Oh, yeah I see what you mean, but that's not really how I'd put it," or "Yeah you're right, but you're also kind of missing the point."
When I listen to Peter Schiff on one of his scathing monologues over government fiscal policy, I agree with what he says and see the advantages in the way he's saying it, but when people disagree with him I think, "Ahh, you're not saying it right. Say it this way and you'll pwn them." I take the gist of his Te observations and conclusions and convert them into Ti expressions.
Yes, you get it, but too much of it bores and annoys you, and you get impatient to express the information through your base rather than make a discomfited attempt at reiterating the line of thinking.
I also think that the ignoring function can
Moving on, there's now the issue of personally using the ignoring function. The problem is that you perceive the ignoring functions outputs as "flawed," so as mentioned earlier, you instinctively want to reframe them into base function outputs. So in order to consciously use the ignoring for a serious purpose, you have to suddenly halt mid-thought and then explain to yourself why you're doing it, and I think it takes immense effort, since the base has to be applied with great exactness in order to not contaminate the desired decoction.
However, I believe the ignoring can be used as a kind of implement for non-serious activity. I think it happens naturally, unconsciously, in certain scenarios. Joy mentioned her SEI father flying into a pretend Se tirade (I think she authored this example in the wiki, too) in order to make it look like she was in trouble so that she could abstain from a social outing. He didn't realize he was doing it, to him it was "silly" behavior; he can do it, but he doesn't see any reason to unless there's some very specific application.
My SEI mother and SLI father can both flare up via Se, usually in situations of stress, and there's nothing faux about it. My dad's the boss at work, and he likes to run a harmonious that is conducted rationally and without any drama. When people slack off, he attempts to redirect them into productivity, and he'll make several attempts before reluctantly approaching them and telling them in very strong terms, to stop slacking off and go drive to the next clients.
Likewise, I can apply Te when stressed. When my ILE brother calls me and bombards me with ten million totally obscure yet logically defensible reasons why humanity needs to unite and explore space, I fall back on "common sense" Te: "Yeah, well if that happens, then fine, but we're not going to see it in our lifetimes, nor is it realistic that you or I will make any sort of difference on whether or not this vision is ever achieved. So there's really no useful reason for me to even be thinking about this." Instead of taking him head on, I perceived him as a foe and fell back on a totally different approach to the discussion.
So I think it's something that sits in the back of the psyche, done either when being silly or, with reluctance, when it seems necessary for tactical reasons.
That's all scattered and disjointed, but I don't feel like editing it, so poopy.