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    Barack Obama.

    Funnily enough Bill Clinton when President met the then Prime Minister of Australia, Paul Keating (SLE) at an APEC conference and later when walking past Paul talking to a few other national leaders patted him on the back and said "I love this guy!" Beta chums.

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    that's interesting.... I can see Obama as an EIE for sure, but are you saying that Clinton is too? I don't see that with him, I see him as a feeling type but not sure other than that.
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    I came by a photo of Bill Clinton a while ago, but can't find it now after browsing. It was a photo of him at a conference sitting at a desk with his eyes not particularly set on anything. A type of stare typical of EIEs when their mind is elsewhere. He wasn't aware someone was taking a photo of him which makes the photo quite revealing for socionics typing - but it made me sure that he was indeed an EIE. If I come by it again, I'll post it up.

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    I would totally buy EIE for Bill. Obviously a feeling extrovert, my guess is Fe > Fi. Probably intuitive, but I wouldn't bet on it. Ni or Ne is a hard choice, but I would guess Ni, which would make him ENFj. ESFj and ESFp are also possibilities I think. ESFj moreso than ESFp, as I don't get an Se vibe from Bill at all. (I do get a Te vibe from Hilary though).
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    I think ENFjs have a greater thirst for politics and political power than ESFjs too. Perhaps it's related to valuing.

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    More celebrity ENFjs:

    * Dennis Hopper (Ni)
    * Chris Berman (Fe)
    * Andre Agassi
    * Donovan McNabb
    * Christopher Walken
    * Marlon Wayans
    * John Ratzenberger (Ni)
    * Michael Douglas
    * Katy Sagal

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    Quote Originally Posted by ISTj View Post
    I think ENFjs have a greater thirst for politics and political power than ESFjs too. Perhaps it's related to valuing.
    Probably more related to Ni-creating....plots to turn the tides, en masse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morcheeba View Post
    that's interesting.... I can see Obama as an EIE for sure, but are you saying that Clinton is too? I don't see that with him, I see him as a feeling type but not sure other than that.
    I see Clinton as IEE for sure. Political correctness and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    I see Clinton as IEE for sure. Political correctness and all.
    Clinton is ESTj

    Michael Jackson is ENFj
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