Some possible examples of famous/celebrity EIEs/ENFjs

[bibliophile8]

I have no idea how you guys do VI. It seems a total mystery to me.

PS
Emmy Rossum is quite beautiful.

I'd put in a picture here, but I don't know how.

[nifl]

Maybe Emmy Rossum is an ENFJ

agree

[Megan]

Chester is the only one that remotely strikes me as an ENFj

Oprah is a flamingly corrupt ENFp. I know a lot of ENFps irl (ENFp magnet, I am!) and she is the epitome of them if they were soulless whores.

some good ENFj examples:

Jake Shears (the flamingest w/ a freakishly odd beta band). Scarlett Johanson (mmmm....).

Jadae, I do not know of many ENFps that I would describe as soul-less(not that you have actually said they were), they have mostly seemed very deep and soulful when you get past the whole fluffy bunny, bubbly surface thing (with an exception here or there as one would expect of any type) ; what were your experiences? ENfps sometimes seem a bit misguided/scattered and too willing to expiriment with things/people/drugs that are not going to do much good for them long-term but they are not usually corrupt or ill-intentioned IME. Oprah does not strike me as corrupt either, possibly annoying (who isn't sometimes?) but not really corrupt, what has she done?

Anyway, I do think a lot of people here of no real idea what an ENFj looks or behaves like and that is one reason why just about everyone put up for V.I is typed ENFj by someone(this is actually getting a bit ridiculous).

[Creepy-pokeball]

Jadae, I do not know of many ENFps that I would describe as soul-less(not that you have actually said they were), they have mostly seemed very deep and soulful when you get past the whole fluffy bunny, bubbly surface thing (with an exception here or there as one would expect of any type) ; what were your experiences? ENfps sometimes seem a bit misguided/scattered and too willing to expiriment with things/people/drugs that are not going to do much good for them long-term but they are not usually corrupt or ill-intentioned IME. Oprah does not strike me as corrupt either, possibly annoying (who isn't sometimes?) but not really corrupt, what has she done?

Anyway, I do think a lot of people here of no real idea what an ENFj looks or behaves like and that is one reason why just about everyone put up for V.I is typed ENFj by someone(this is actually getting a bit ridiculous).

Any type can be so-called "soulless". But other than that, how is Oprah not corrupt?

Id put myself up for VI for an example of an ENFj, but I dont trust some individuals that are beyond seriously psychotic. I like my family/friends, if you know what I mean, lol.

[Expat]

I have no clear opinion on Farah's type, she might well be ENFj, or they might be duals, but I can't see the Shah as ISTj.

I can see him as INTp, ISTp, or perhaps even INTj or a very retiring sort of ENTj. Not ISTj.

[Dioklecian]

Hugh Hefner

I typed him ESFJ, have you considered that possibility Expat?

[Expat]

I think ESFj is possible, anyway I think he's an type, but his biography suggested > to me.

[Rocky]

Does anyone else see these people as ENFJ?

Christopher Knight


Robert Redford


Owen Wilson


Tom Cruise

[Blaze]

I agree with Christopher Knight being an enfj. Not so much the others.

[MrCrumbles]

Tom Cruise definitely comes across as ENFJ in public and in film. He's emotinoally charged, in your face, and doesn't compromise. But I think beneath that exterior he is ISTP, and I've read that on various type websites.

Robert Redford and Owen Wilson have always struck me as ESTP. The way Redford plays that CIA agent in Spy Game as a manipulative con-artist with flexible morals was so natural.

Famous ENFJs that come to my mind include Joe Pesci, Michael Imperioli from the Sopranos, Tommy Lee Jones, Julia Louis Dreyfuss from Seinfeld. I find a lot of "mobster" characters will often be played by ENFJ or ESFJ actors (note: I firmly believe James Gandolfini is an INTP).

[Rocky]

I agree with Christopher Knight being an enfj. Not so much the others.

why?

[Rocky]

But I think beneath that exterior he is ISTP, and I've read that on various type websites.

Ha. No.

Famous ENFJs that come to my mind include Joe Pesci, Michael Imperioli from the Sopranos, Tommy Lee Jones, Julia Louis Dreyfuss from Seinfeld. I find a lot of "mobster" characters will often be played by ENFJ or ESFJ actors (note: I firmly believe James Gandolfini is an INTP).

Why Fe for the mob? Isn't the mob anti-social?

[Kristiina]

ENTp for Owen Wilson.
Possible ENFp for Robert Redford. (but not so sure. He just looks so delta for some obscure reason).

And I love the mob. It's clean and straight-forward, but still profitable and with a potential for prestige.

[Rocky]

Am I the only one who thinks Wilson and Redford VI similarly?

[Rocky]

BTW Kristiina, now that you are ENFJ, why not a good VI pic from you. Maybe that one you Pmed to bionicgoat would be ok.

[Angel von Himmel]

Man, that is one tasty looking apple!

[Creepy-bg]

BTW Kristiina, now that you are ENFJ, why not a good VI pic from you. Maybe that one you Pmed to bionicgoat would be ok.

hands off dogboy

[Gilly]

John Hurt
(The Elephant Man, V for Vendetta)


Hurt is my archetype EIE.

[Gilly]

Also...

Bono
(U2)


Rick's ENFj posterchild.

[Dioklecian]

John Hurt
(The Elephant Man, V for Vendetta)


Hurt is my archetype EIE.

I agree wit hthis.

Gilligan, are you sure you are INFJ?

[eunice]

Am I the only one who thinks Wilson and Redford VI similarly?

I think they VI similarly too, but I don't see them as ENFj. They seem more ESTp to me. As for Tom Cruise, I agree that he is not ISTp. Especially after the couch incident during the Oprah Show.

[Gilly]

About as sure as I am of your sanity.

[Gilly]

Am I the only one who thinks Wilson and Redford VI similarly?

No.

They have VERY similar expressions. However, while I agree with ENFj for Redford, I think INFp is more likely for Wilson. He reeks of dual seeking, if you ask me.

[FDG]

About as sure as I am of your sanity.

rotfl

[ENFperator]

Robert Redford and Owen Wilson might be ENFjs (at least I can see Fj and EF), although I'm not sure. Cruise is nuts, I can't type him.

[eunice]

Cruise is nuts, I can't type him.

Exactly. I can't believe I used to like him when I was a little girl after I watched him on the first Mission Impossible movie.

[Expat]

Am I the only one who thinks Wilson and Redford VI similarly?

No.

They have VERY similar expressions. However, while I agree with ENFj for Redford, I think INFp is more likely for Wilson. He reeks of dual seeking, if you ask me.

I agree with this, although I'm not that sure about Redford. I don't have a better idea, though.

And yes, I also think that Tom Cruise is ENFj.

[ENFperator]

Cruise is nuts, I can't type him.

Exactly. I can't believe I used to like him when I was a little girl after I watched him on the first Mission Impossible movie.

I don't feel a particular dislike for Tom Cruise, but since he became obsessed with scientology and the performance in the Oprah show I don't take him seriously any more.

[Creepy-male]

Tom Cruise seems ESFp more so to me, I mean I haven't seen much things intuitive out of him. I know this isn't MBTI or kiersey but he fits a performer with the way he is outgoing, and he is able to operate in the media in an way.

I do agree with that comment also about the ISTp aspects, I heard he took up flying as a past time, and flying airplanes is a very ISTp thing to do.

[Expat]

Also because I'm bored --

Xerxes I the Great, Persian King of Kings, 485-465 BC

The way he was portrayed in the movie 300 is very obviously EIE, and I think it's a plausible type for the historical person as well (a hunch in this case).

"I only require that you kneel before me -- because I am kind" (in the movie).






Trajan, Emperor of Rome, 98-117 AD

He's easier to type than you might think -- lots of his letters have survived.






Constantine I the Great, Emperor of Rome 306-337 AD

The guy who made Christianity into the western world's chief religion. Liked to style himself "the 13th apostle".




Jumping a few centuries --

John Kennedy, US president






Ronald Reagan, US president






Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, French president 1974-81

(note that in his tv farewell as president, he made a point of standing up and walking away, live, something he had never done before)


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDrghjsOs_I[/youtube]


Nelson Mandela , president of South Africa 1994-99, and Muammar al-Gaddafi "Brotherly Leader and Guide of the Revolution" of Libya






Saloth Sar aka Pol Pot, leader of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia




Franklin Roosevelt, US president



Cary Grant




Salvador Dalí, Spanish surrealist painter




Oriana Fallaci, Italian journalist and author



Peter O'Toole




[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=pIXoneT1XFI[/youtube]

Jane Fonda

[Exodus]

Trajan, Emperor of Rome, 98-117 AD

He's easier to type than you might think -- lots of his letters have survived.

Quite a resemblance.

[Expat]

Pericles, politician and statesman of democratic Athens, 5th century BC (a justified hunch )





George Villiers the Duke of Buckingham, English royal favorite and quasi-PM in the 17th century, the guy who was the French queen's lover in The Three Musketeers.

[Expat]

Quite a resemblance.

It would be fascinating if we could take VI that far --

[Exodus]

Quite a resemblance.

It would be fascinating if we could take VI that far --

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?cha...6C83414B7F0000

In any case I think those sketches are very helpful, much more than photographs. I am beginning to see just how accurate VI is in real life.

[Socionics Is A Cult]

Matt Bellamy - lead singer + guitarist of the band Muse




Asia Argento - actress (she was in XxX which I haven't seen )

[Socionics Is A Cult]

Keira Knightley - actress (e.g. Pirates of the Caribbean)




Russell Brand - comedian + presenter in the U.K.



Interesting video of Russell Brand - an ENFj in action!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q06daZ1jg1o[/youtube]

[Expat]

Keira Knightley - actress (e.g. Pirates of the Caribbean)

Any particular reason? I tend to see her as an IP of some sort.

[FDG]

Jane Fonda

ISFJ 100 percent

[Expat]

ISFJ 100 percent

Why?

[FDG]

ISFJ 100 percent

Why?

1)She looks exactly like an ISFj prof I have had for years (no possibility of mistyping her after all that interaction)
2)She has been used as a "model" @ socionics.org for the "readiness to resist" ascribed to the ISFj facial expression