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    Hm, yeah. Knowing the IM elements is essential to understanding and identifying one's type. Two people can express the same IMEs in a different manner, so it becomes important to look at more than just superficial behaviors.
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    A lot of this is stuff people already know or have read --
    INTj's and INTp's are quasi-identicals and have some things in common, including: they are both Negativists (http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...st#Negativists), Obstinate (http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...bstinate_types), Farsighted (http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...rsighted_types), Democratic (http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...ic#Democrats); and in addition they are both Introverted NT's (Researchers) that dualize with Extraverted SF's (Socials), so it can be easy to confuse them with each other.

    http://www.socioniko.net/en/articles/lytovs-intro3.html

    "Secondary extraverted intuition (the types Analyst and Humanist, XXX-intuitive introverts)

    They may be misperceived for the quasi-identical types (Critic and Lyricist with the dominant introverted intuition) for their being modest intellectuals who do not strive “into the center of events”, their certain idealism. However, the difference is remarkable: both Analyst and Humanist are consequent in their thoughts, often have well-structured speech (and often prefer to communicate in written than in spoken). They are rigid in their everyday life: while Critic and Lyricist can well adapt to changing circumstances, Analyst and Humanist rather suffer when plans change. And they both believe that people are full of positive potential, which should be discovered and developed."

    'Secondary extraverted logic (the types Critic and Craftsman, XXX-logical introverts)

    They may be misperceived for the quasi-identical types (Analyst and Inspector with the dominant introverted logic) for their calm logical emotionless manner of explaining their views, and for certain vital conservatism. However, the difference is, that they do not strive for being consistent and systematic in their thoughts – on the contrary, they strive for adaptation to ever-changing situation, and thus their sayings often look incomplete or vague. Carl Gustav Jung, although some typologists think he was an Analyst, not Critic, wrote in a very vague, ambiguous way, often left his ideas uncompleted, and even his typology was for him just a “by-product”. Often the facial expression of Critics and Craftsmen is skeptical, with a characteristic grin (Critic: Meg Ryan, Woody Allen; Craftsman: Meryl Streep, Harvey Keitel). They prefer not to present their own concepts but rather to criticize our people for imperfect, contradictory concepts. These two types may be also called “anti-enthusiasts” – they like to warn other people against insufficiently considered, unreasoned spontaneous actions, and hate very much excessive emotions.'

    And here are some other links (I'm sure a lot of people have already read the last one):

    http://www.socionics.com/articles/on_being_intj.html

    http://www.socionics.com/articles/intjorintp.htm


    And I think I was probably a bit too negative in some of my interpretations of Ti. Most Ti-egos are probably not like that. And I guess when I start continuing my education I'll be able to appreciate more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazybones View Post

    http://www.socioniko.net/en/articles/lytovs-intro3.html

    "Secondary extraverted intuition (the types Analyst and Humanist, XXX-intuitive introverts)

    They may be misperceived for the quasi-identical types (Critic and Lyricist with the dominant introverted intuition) for their being modest intellectuals who do not strive “into the center of events”, their certain idealism. However, the difference is remarkable: both Analyst and Humanist are consequent in their thoughts, often have well-structured speech (and often prefer to communicate in written than in spoken). They are rigid in their everyday life: while Critic and Lyricist can well adapt to changing circumstances, Analyst and Humanist rather suffer when plans change. And they both believe that people are full of positive potential, which should be discovered and developed."

    "Secondary extraverted logic (the types Critic and Craftsman, XXX-logical introverts)

    They may be misperceived for the quasi-identical types (Analyst and Inspector with the dominant introverted logic) for their calm logical emotionless manner of explaining their views, and for certain vital conservatism. However, the difference is, that they do not strive for being consistent and systematic in their thoughts – on the contrary, they strive for adaptation to ever-changing situation, and thus their sayings often look incomplete or vague. Carl Gustav Jung, although some typologists think he was an Analyst, not Critic, wrote in a very vague, ambiguous way, often left his ideas uncompleted, and even his typology was for him just a “by-product”. Often the facial expression of Critics and Craftsmen is skeptical, with a characteristic grin (Critic: Meg Ryan, Woody Allen; Craftsman: Meryl Streep, Harvey Keitel). They prefer not to present their own concepts but rather to criticize our people for imperfect, contradictory concepts. These two types may be also called “anti-enthusiasts” – they like to warn other people against insufficiently considered, unreasoned spontaneous actions, and hate very much excessive emotions."
    These are new, thanks. I really do think the functional differences should be stressed and compared in Socionics, because the practicality is left open to interpretation.
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