the delta NFs and foul language

[Galen]

cock shit fuck dick ass penis cunt boobs

[Park]

Dillon, you son of a bitch.

[Cuddly McFluffles]

For me, swearing is usually an expression of emotion, as opposed to something to just blithely throw around. I do swear, somewhat profusely when frustrated (good thing my stuff is inanimate, or it'd have a complex). I'm not a delicate flower that wilts when I hear profanity, and I don't need to be treated as such. I'm not really comfortable with some of the stronger profanity, which I tend to see as unnecessarily crude; and I generally find those who use it, especially frequently, to be distasteful and worth avoiding. The worst word I use is "fuck". It's recently come out of my mouth more often than I would like; I view it more as a special-occasion sort of word (think "Precision F-strike" from TV Tropes).

Slightly related story: I recently shocked a co-worker by referring to a character as an insensitive bitch. At first, I thought the girl flipped out because of our "no-swearing policy"; turns out she just hadn't expected that term to come out of my mouth.

[Lobo]

I don't like cursing, even though I do it when I'm frustrated at something. It seems like a cheap way of expressing yourself and trying to be "cool."

[Suz]

I don't like cursing, even though I do it when I'm frustrated at something. It seems like a cheap way of expressing yourself and trying to be "cool."

well put.

[Marie84]

For me, swearing is usually an expression of emotion, as opposed to something to just blithely throw around. I do swear, somewhat profusely when frustrated (good thing my stuff is inanimate, or it'd have a complex). I'm not a delicate flower that wilts when I hear profanity, and I don't need to be treated as such. I'm not really comfortable with some of the stronger profanity, which I tend to see as unnecessarily crude; and I generally find those who use it, especially frequently, to be distasteful and worth avoiding. The worst word I use is "fuck". It's recently come out of my mouth more often than I would like; I view it more as a special-occasion sort of word (think "Precision F-strike" from TV Tropes).

Slightly related story: I recently shocked a co-worker by referring to a character as an insensitive bitch. At first, I thought the girl flipped out because of our "no-swearing policy"; turns out she just hadn't expected that term to come out of my mouth.

yes, same

I don't have a tendency to drop the swear bombs in general conversations, but it comes out in random releases of frustrations.
But in all fairness I do find it rather off-putting when people do seem to swear a lot for no apparent reason, it makes me think they're aggressive, lack confidence thus feel need to puff themselves up or just plain ignorant

frankly, i think the entire point is for ryu to further solidify his conception of delta NFs as ideal stepford wives, which is a characterization i resent, and since he is the most prominent self-typed LSE on this forum, his characterization of delta NFs holds some weight, which is unfortunate because it is so patronizing and wrong.

I'm getting that impression as well. fwiw I think it's perfectly find if ryu has specific preferences and what not in what he expects from women, particularly Delta NF's females, but I'm very much put off by any suggestion that those tastes should be indicative of type

on a personal note, I despise gender stereotypes only second to racial ones, they should die in a fire

[Simon Ssmall]

I'm pretty sure Delta NF's can appreciate more or less everything in moderation, it's the extremes that are avoided and frowned upon. And Ryu quite often receives such responses to his threads so it does not surprise me that some people thought he thinks of delta NFs as ideal stepford wives .

[AWellArmedCat]

There's a LOT of Delta NFs who move to Japan as English teachers, and I have noticed a very strong tendency of them to police conversations. I'm good friends with a lot of them, but I do find the policing quite annoying and stressful. Like coarse conversations don't make me uncomfortable, but I'll start to feel uncomfortable by proxy because I know it's bothering them and then I feel like I have to reign in the conversation (killing the fun atmosphere imo). When we're all at the office (which really isn't that frequently actually), there's me (IEI), an EII girl, an LII(?) guy, and an ExE guy. The EII girl is the most insistent BY FAR that we maintain a "professional" atmosphere. The LII(maybe, I'm still confused about his type) and I only care that we aren't bothering anyone else in the office, and the ExE guy is the most uninhibited and tends to clash the hardest with the EII girl. When the EII girl isn't there our conversations are just absolute trash and full of "offensive" jokes. I was on a car trip with them and an SEE and SLE and the whole trip's conversations sounded barely better than a 4chan board. Personally I find that environment way more preferable to maintaining some kind of dead "professional" atmosphere (though I'm very adept at doing that when I need to, especially in front of bosses/supervisors), but the Delta NFs in my opinion are almost always bothered by the roughness of the conversation. Delta NF guys aren't quite as sensitive as Delta NF ladies in my experience, but even they tend to be quite sensitive to the "pleasantness" of the conversation (though interestingly they are less proactive at steering it in a more polite direction than Delta NF ladies seem to be)

[ashlesha]

I'm getting that impression as well. fwiw I think it's perfectly find if ryu has specific preferences and what not in what he expects from women, particularly Delta NF's females, but I'm very much put off by any suggestion that those tastes should be indicative of type

i'm glad you said this because i want to clarify that my irritation wasn't about what i get the impression ryu is attracted to-- if somebody wants a stepford wife, or if somebody else wants a sex slave, or if somebody else wants a sugar momma, it really isn't any of my business. what bothers me is the extrapolating to type and the fact that this creates misinformation and confusion, imo. and really strange expectations for what it means to be delta NF.

also, you can see my posting history for a good indication of how often i swear, which isn't much. but if i wanted to start cursing like a sailor and still call myself EII, then i'd like the freedom to do so, heh. maybe cliche, but dislike of boxes and all that.

[Cuddly McFluffles]

yes, same

I don't have a tendency to drop the swear bombs in general conversations, but it comes out in random releases of frustrations.
But in all fairness I do find it rather off-putting when people do seem to swear a lot for no apparent reason, it makes me think they're aggressive, lack confidence thus feel need to puff themselves up or just plain ignorant



I'm getting that impression as well. fwiw I think it's perfectly find if ryu has specific preferences and what not in what he expects from women, particularly Delta NF's females, but I'm very much put off by any suggestion that those tastes should be indicative of type

on a personal note, I despise gender stereotypes only second to racial ones, they should die in a fire

Hahaha, I you.

I don't think his "bake me brownies" comments should be taken seriously. It seems more like a running joke.

[ashlesha]

I don't think his "bake me brownies" comments should be taken seriously. It seems more like a running joke.

the joke would probably be funnier to me if it wasn't for the other things he often says about delta NFs, like this.