How to tell apart SLE-LSI and EIE-IEI

[JuJu]

I agree with you, Gulazon. It helps one identify their quadra.

I'm writing, you know, about that nebulous area between two types--in this case, beta NFs or STs, what some call creative subtypes--model a or x or whatever you're using. .. It exists in all of the models. (see example.)

I'm wondering if there's any new insight on this forum about it.... How to make that nebulous area more clear-cut.

[JuJu]

Speaking for myself, I found that looking into the supervision relations helps... Also, meeting and correctly typing my dual.

[JuJu]

Come on, people, I'm trying to get a discussion going about the harder parts of Socionics here...

Here are the beta STs

Lou Reed -- Se-LSI


Dave Matthews -- Ti-ESTp

[idolatrie]

Come on, people, I'm trying to get a discussion going about the harder parts of Socionics here...

Here are the beta STs

Lou Reed -- Se-LSI
YouTube - Lou Reed - Interview

Dave Matthews -- Ti-ESTp
YouTube - Dave Matthews interview

I think Lou Reed and Dave Matthews hold themselves very differently in these vids. DM seems to lead with his energy, almost like he's leaping forward from his body. He holds himself quite loosely, his movements seem erratic but very organic (scratching his face). LR holds himself very tightly, even when he leans forward he's holding something back. You as the viewer are drawn to him, as opposed to DM seeming to be drawn to you. LR's movements are deliberate and firm (the fist to emphasise his point).

I think SLEs seems to come forward and challenge you, get in your face and say 'do you think you can take me on?' but LSIs seem to sit back and let you fall into the trap of bringing the challenge to them.

I think EIEs and IEIs are more easily confused than SLEs and LSIs.

[unefille]

I think EIEs and IEIs are more easily confused than SLEs and LSIs.

For you. Other way around for me (as my optimistic crushing on a recent SLE reveals lol). Which I'm sure you meant to say, though -- that Beta STs are more likely to recognise between their identical and mirror and vice-versa for Beta NFs.

[idolatrie]

For you. Other way around for me (as my optimistic crushing on a recent SLE reveals lol). Which I'm sure you meant to say, though -- that Beta STs are more likely to recognise between their identical and mirror and vice-versa for Beta NFs.

yeah.