In this topic list your negative feedback from studying Socionics...
Socionics: Negative Comments
In this topic list your negative feedback from studying Socionics...
Remember to keep things simple and not any simpler like Einstein once said.
It made me doubt myself, my self perception and my abilities.
And it made me realize how much I actually "act" IRL. When I thought I was finding myself (being actively social), I was in stead learning how to fake better. Now I know I'm unable to be myself is most situations. I hate lying and deceiving, and even more the thought of myself living with a fake personality. I'm not 100% sure I wanted to know.
EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
E3 (probably 3w4)
Cool ILI hubbys are better than LSIs any time!
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Edited for gayness.
ENTp
It has little to no practical use beyond the initial awe moments of identification with certain things in relations to other things.
Remember to keep things simple and not any simpler like Einstein once said.
How ENTps seem to get crucified but its good in a way becaue it stops me from doing it to other people.
Polly
ENTP
Edited for gayness.
ENTp
We need to start crucifying ENTjs again.
"To become is just like falling asleep. You never know exactly when it happens, the transition, the magic, and you think, if you could only recall that exact moment of crossing the line then you would understand everything; you would see it all"
"Angels dancing on the head of a pin dissolve into nothingness at the bedside of a dying child."
Lets not crucify anyone and say we did.
It's often too vague and general.
Friendly ISTp
Interested in everything, yes, EVERYTHING
Flower's motto: Life's too short even to do the things you want to, let alone the things you dont!!
I'm worried that it might eventually become part of the mainstream. That would be a disaster.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
Originally Posted by implied
Why does that worry you Expat?
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Because companies would start using socionics when hiring/promoting people or forming teams - - "oh no don't make him manager, the other managers are all Gamma and he's Alpha, so it wouldn't work".
It is obviously difficult to type people properly - as evidenced by so many people here not knowing their own type even having read so much about it. That makes it less useful and people shouldn't rely on it.
And I agree that people shouldn't be hired based on the results of personality tests. They do that at my husband's work.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
What line of work is that if I may ask?
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IT but everyone at his work does it and most of the people at his office are lawyers or accountants. It's a manufacturing company and he's at the corporate headquarters. They probably do it at the manufacturing sites too.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
When you say they do it, what do they do precisely?
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When I say "they probably do it" I mean they probably do the personality testing. The company he works for manufactures medical devices.
Oh and when I say my husband's job is in IT, "IT" doesn't mean "it" - it means "information technology". LOL.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Socionics approximates with Pringles to me: Once you've studied it you can't help type people even if you try and put a cap on doing so.
Remember to keep things simple and not any simpler like Einstein once said.
Right, but do they really test for personality, or you think they do? And if they do it, how do they do it and how do they use the results?
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My husband showed me his test results. It wasn't MBTI. It was before I started reading about this and I don't remember the details, but it seemed pretty accurate. But the names used weren't MBTI letters or anything. So I know they use personality tests. I think they're administered by Gallup because he calls it "galluping". Like, "We have a candidate but we have to see how he gallups first."
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
I notice that, sometimes. When I'm sitting around and people walk by, I wonder what type they are, then actively try to type them. What hurts me, is that I do nothing with the information..Socionics approximates with Pringles to me: Once you've studied it you can't help type people even if you try and put a cap on doing so.
"hey, she's my dual." I realize this, but then my hatred of her doesn't go away.. for example.
thing.
Love that "galluping", can I borrow it?
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I notice that, sometimes. When I'm sitting around and people walk by, I wonder what type they are, then actively try to type them. What hurts me, is that I do nothing with the information..Socionics approximates with Pringles to me: Once you've studied it you can't help type people even if you try and put a cap on doing so.
"hey, she's my dual." I realize this, but then my hatred of her doesn't go away.. for example.
FUCKING LOVE THAT LAST SENTENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Also, I don't do the things that would make her feel better, or I don't try to make her happier, or I don't try to get to know her, and I don't stop trying to stay the fuck away from her. There's alot I don't do. I can never be bothered to state them all, on the first go-round. It makes me look, umm.. haha.I notice that, sometimes. When I'm sitting around and people walk by, I wonder what type they are, then actively try to type them. What hurts me, is that I do nothing with the information..Socionics approximates with Pringles to me: Once you've studied it you can't help type people even if you try and put a cap on doing so.
"hey, she's my dual." I realize this, but then my hatred of her doesn't go away.. for example.
FUCKING LOVE THAT LAST SENTENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How stupid.
thing.
Also, I don't do the things that would make her feel better, or I don't try to make her happier, or I don't try to get to know her, and I don't stop trying to stay the fuck away from her. There's alot I don't do. I can never be bothered to state them all, on the first go-round. It makes me look, umm.. haha.I notice that, sometimes. When I'm sitting around and people walk by, I wonder what type they are, then actively try to type them. What hurts me, is that I do nothing with the information..Socionics approximates with Pringles to me: Once you've studied it you can't help type people even if you try and put a cap on doing so.
"hey, she's my dual." I realize this, but then my hatred of her doesn't go away.. for example.
FUCKING LOVE THAT LAST SENTENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How stupid.
What is your dual and why do you hate it?
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Well... you aren't technically supposed to do anything with Socionics. The idea was just to explain people as they are naturally - not as they could be, not as they should be. Trust me. Trying to apply this stuff to your interaction does nothing but make you extremely self-conscious about what you say/do and how you act. Attempts to "manipulate" people with the fundamentals are just superficial and will most likely only remedy the underlying incompatibility for a short time.
Just be yourself, and let everyone else be themselves. Acknowledge that there are some people you just naturally won't like and some you'll love and go on with life. Socionics can maybe give you insight as to why some people get under your skin and some don't, but that's pretty much the extent of this stuff.
Socionics approximates with University to me for it either attracts academics who theorize or for those who simply want to take a course as a means to an end who live in the 'real world'.
Remember to keep things simple and not any simpler like Einstein once said.
Uh, what about both of 'em?
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Of course. Pardon my INTj-for-the-sake-of-making-an-arguement-sh*t.
Remember to keep things simple and not any simpler like Einstein once said.
That's why I even tried to come back and say more, because when I said "do something with it," I immidiately realized what conclusions would be jumped to. I guess I can't really explain what I mean at this point in time.Well... you aren't technically supposed to do anything with Socionics. The idea was just to explain people as they are naturally - not as they could be, not as they should be. Trust me. Trying to apply this stuff to your interaction does nothing but make you extremely self-conscious about what you say/do and how you act. Attempts to "manipulate" people with the fundamentals are just superficial and will most likely only remedy the underlying incompatibility for a short time.
Just be yourself, and let everyone else be themselves. Acknowledge that there are some people you just naturally won't like and some you'll love and go on with life. Socionics can maybe give you insight as to why some people get under your skin and some don't, but that's pretty much the extent of this stuff.
thing.
Sorry if I read you wrong. What did you mean?
"I guess I can't really explain what I mean at this time."
thing.
Fair enough.
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Thats' bs (I mean joe's self pity crap, "uhum I mean a little boy, I can't say what I mean...ohohoh cry cry cry..."), Joe speak up boy, whats' troubling you? Why do you hate your dual? What did they do to you?
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Uh... that's not Transigent.\
Thats' bs, ****** speak up boy, whats' troubling you? Why do you hate your dual? What did they do to you?
Sorry Joe.Uh... that's not Transigent.\
Thats' bs, ****** speak up boy, whats' troubling you? Why do you hate your dual? What did they do to you?
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Watch carefully, as you sink. I've tested the waters, and they are fit for drowning.Sorry by BS I meant the self pity bit of TRansingent, what is he not?Uh... that's not Transigent.\
Thats' bs, ****** speak up boy, whats' troubling you? Why do you hate your dual? What did they do to you?
thing.
Fuck I haven't slept in days, for real...Sorry Joe.Uh... that's not Transigent.\
Thats' bs, ****** speak up boy, whats' troubling you? Why do you hate your dual? What did they do to you?
Well I am back. How's everyone? Don't have as much time now, but glad to see some of the old gang are still here.
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