View Poll Results: What's your placement on the Vosem Chart?

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  • New Labour

    1 4.17%
  • Liberal

    11 45.83%
  • Libertarian

    7 29.17%
  • Anarcho-syndicalist

    2 8.33%
  • Authoritarian

    0 0%
  • Totalitarian

    2 8.33%
  • Conservative

    2 8.33%
  • Paleo-conservative

    2 8.33%
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Thread: What's Your Placement on the Vosem Chart?

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    I think the first two categories are relatively sound, but the third is Ameri-centric, and for that reason, detrimentally cynical. I disagree with the way it's set up. A different dichotomy would probably place me as New Labour.
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    tcaud: You always seem to assume that my posts are some sort of deliberate attempt to sway public opinion. That mindset is bizarre to me. I am interested in exploring ideas, and sometimes enlist the aid of others to do so. In this case, I wanted to see where other people fall on the Vosem Chart, to see how it plays out in real life, and whether it holds up as a useful political categorization scheme.

    I've reserved judgement on Mitchell's theory until I read his book.

    Also, what the devil is "thought-terminating language"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    Also, what the devil is "thought-terminating language"?
    It's use of catchphrases or terms dismissively stereotyping individuals or groups, deeming them beneath consideration for embodying undesirable social, ethnic, economic, psychological, political, or other traits. Examples relevant to this thread would be "moonbat" or "wingnut" (they also exist in self-flattering forms such as "conservative" or "progressive"). Their deployment generally signals that the user's opinions on a given matter are prejudicially fixed and unalterable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rps3y View Post
    It's use of catchphrases or terms dismissively stereotyping individuals or groups, deeming them beneath consideration for embodying undesirable social, ethnic, economic, psychological, political, or other traits. Examples relevant to this thread would be "moonbat" or "wingnut" (they also exist in self-flattering forms such as "conservative" or "progressive"). Their deployment generally signals that the user's opinions on a given matter are prejudicially fixed and unalterable.
    damn, do you also study dictionaries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rps3y View Post
    It's use of catchphrases or terms dismissively stereotyping individuals or groups, deeming them beneath consideration for embodying undesirable social, ethnic, economic, psychological, political, or other traits. Examples relevant to this thread would be "moonbat" or "wingnut" (they also exist in self-flattering forms such as "conservative" or "progressive"). Their deployment generally signals that the user's opinions on a given matter are prejudicially fixed and unalterable.
    Right, but what I meant was the way he seems (to me) to argue that people should look no further than the link he posted to understand Mitchell. Thus, he implicitly suggests that people should not expend their mental energy on learning the matter further, and that, moreover, he is a trustworthy source on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    Right, but what I meant was the way he seems (to me) to argue that people should look no further than the link he posted to understand Mitchell. Thus, he implicitly suggests that people should not expend their mental energy on learning the matter further, and that, moreover, he is a trustworthy source on the matter.
    Um, yeah, seriously, you're reading way too much into things. When I post links, I'm implicitly assuming just the opposite: that if people are interested in finding out more, they'll do their own research on the subject.

    As I've said repeatedly now, my interest in what other people believe, while not non-existent, is extremely limited. I certainly don't spend as much time thinking about it as you seem to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krig the Viking View Post
    Um, yeah, seriously, you're reading way too much into things. When I post links, I'm implicitly assuming just the opposite: that if people are interested in finding out more, they'll do their own research on the subject.

    As I've said repeatedly now, my interest in what other people believe, while not non-existent, is extremely limited. I certainly don't spend as much time thinking about it as you seem to.
    Well maybe we can be friends then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcaudilllg View Post
    Well maybe we can be friends then.
    Sounds good to me.
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