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28/04/2011 13:58 <BulletsAndDoves> but u know what I mean, it's just A THING
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28/04/2011 13:58 <BulletsAndDoves> ugh don't hit me ppl im not saying esfjs are always fake nice.
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28/04/2011 13:58 <BulletsAndDoves> 'fake nice' ppl who just know how to be really social but could care less
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28/04/2011 13:58 <poli> scares me a bit
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28/04/2011 13:58 <poli> ah yeah
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28/04/2011 13:57 <BulletsAndDoves> then on the other hand you have people who try to overly express emotions that they don't even feel, like esfjs do a lot
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28/04/2011 13:56 <poli> wouldnt see me talking about it, because it wouldnt be on my mind much of the time
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28/04/2011 13:56 <BulletsAndDoves> You're probably right but on the other hand, a lot of people seem to think (not saying you do) that other people won't be able to sense their feelings if they try to act rigid or something, Idk it's always weird to me because I can see right through it
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28/04/2011 13:55 <poli> i kinda try to escape even those discussions, unless i can think of something to say about my experience
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28/04/2011 13:55 <poli> that seems more true to me, the latter. but you wouldnt see me talking much about it
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28/04/2011 13:54 <poli> less*, not more
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28/04/2011 13:54 <poli> i wonder if its more about peoples emotion that it is just the idea or larger concept of what people do
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28/04/2011 13:54 <BulletsAndDoves> emotons themselves, probably not- how people EMOTE- probably most definitely
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28/04/2011 13:53 <poli> true, though is emotion type related?
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28/04/2011 13:53 <BulletsAndDoves> You're just not very expressive. But so what? you're just as emotional as anybody else I bet
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28/04/2011 13:52 <BulletsAndDoves> You understand emotions perfectly, or you wouldn't be amused by getting under people's skin
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28/04/2011 13:52 <poli> else theyre just static noise. which is where my sister is different, she can pick up on all sorts of emotions
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28/04/2011 13:52 <poli> things have to kind of resonate with me or
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28/04/2011 13:51 <poli> hmm
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28/04/2011 13:50 <BulletsAndDoves> ah yeah so do I
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28/04/2011 13:50 <poli> maybe there are some kind of emotions that i can understand, like listening to a beautiful orchestrated melody
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28/04/2011 13:49 <poli> my sister catches onto that stuff a lot, peoples emotions
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28/04/2011 13:49 <BulletsAndDoves> You just feel like you can see them better by distancing yourself from them, but really they're having the same insight about you
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28/04/2011 13:49 <poli> huh i just dont pay attention to that aspect of it
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28/04/2011 13:48 <BulletsAndDoves> That's where you're wrong. it's actaully a very emotive perspective
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28/04/2011 13:48 <BulletsAndDoves> I don't think it's bad either, just maybe immature. but you're still young. sorry I sound morally condescending I'm not really being that way =(
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28/04/2011 13:48 <poli> but to answer more of your question, what else...
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28/04/2011 13:48 <poli> i think its just some kind of basic knowledge about people, from a somewhat unemotive perspective
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28/04/2011 13:48 <poli> hmm, its not so bad though, at least what im thinking of
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28/04/2011 13:47 <BulletsAndDoves> trolling people is addicting tho. and easy
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28/04/2011 13:47 <BulletsAndDoves> that's obviously a defense mechianism of being afraid of ur own heart, eh
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28/04/2011 13:47 <BulletsAndDoves> Tjat
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28/04/2011 13:46 <poli> and kinda get under peoples skin
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28/04/2011 13:46 <poli> maybe u can think of it, like some media outlet that has those hollyhood kid drama about peoples relationships, and that one sexy girl who knows how to do it all
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28/04/2011 13:46 <poli> i think i got off to like, manipulating relationships or something. i dont remember where it was fun
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28/04/2011 13:45 <BulletsAndDoves> What do you like the most from other people then?
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28/04/2011 13:45 <Uniden> Hmm...
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28/04/2011 13:45 <poli> be much interested in that, what u describe
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28/04/2011 13:45 <poli> and def not always cool. i just wouldnt expect myself to
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28/04/2011 13:44 <poli> you have to be nice to a certain extent
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28/04/2011 13:44 <poli> not perfectly
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28/04/2011 13:44 <BulletsAndDoves> you can't be both?
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28/04/2011 13:44 <BulletsAndDoves> lol
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28/04/2011 13:44 <poli> well, thats just the thing. theyre nice, not cool
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28/04/2011 13:43 <poli> nice people are cool n stuff but
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28/04/2011 13:43 <poli> yeah. im not like that at all
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28/04/2011 13:42 <BulletsAndDoves> my intj dad just wants typical esfj behavior like caregiving and people being warm and friendly and a lot of positive, outgoing Fe
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28/04/2011 13:41 <BulletsAndDoves> and at least soconicts tend to be as hyper-aware of their weaknesses as they are their strengths
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28/04/2011 13:40 <BulletsAndDoves> Differences are just scary to people, we are all socialized to be the same and look for commonalities in things and say things like 'well everybody gets that way' when clearly some people have stronger intuition vs. sensing, and a whole host of other abilities. so it's hard to teach this stuff irl I think, w/o sounding crazy
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28/04/2011 13:40 <poli> im trying to think how someone who actually appreciates Ti as a dominant function enough of the time to be that type, would see things
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28/04/2011 13:39 <poli> logic and ethics i mean
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28/04/2011 13:39 <poli> spur of the moment interest. ive always been the most attracted to it as a concept. because logic and feeling seem kinda secondary
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28/04/2011 13:38 <poli> intuition isnt just some like
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28/04/2011 13:38 <poli> hmm
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28/04/2011 13:36 <poli> ip? sure
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28/04/2011 13:36 <BulletsAndDoves> fucking lag
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28/04/2011 13:35 <BulletsAndDoves> Interesting theory, sorta like ip absorbing energy?
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28/04/2011 13:35 <BulletsAndDoves> Hmm
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28/04/2011 13:35 <poli> hmm yeah
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28/04/2011 13:34 <poli> it could be a two way thing, not just we sense things, but things sense us
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28/04/2011 13:34 <BulletsAndDoves> Well why do you talk on internet message boards about theories and abstract stuff where some people absolutely have to simply 'just do it'? Ya know what I mean? Your brains obviously have to work somewhat differently lol
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28/04/2011 13:34 <poli> and i approached it a couple feet away and it went off
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28/04/2011 13:33 <poli> like last week i set it for 5 minutes
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28/04/2011 13:33 <BulletsAndDoves> yeah
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28/04/2011 13:32 <poli> just sense the time if im waiting around for something
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28/04/2011 13:32 <BulletsAndDoves> maybe not but it could be related
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28/04/2011 13:32 <poli> i often sense when the microwave is about to go off, not that theres any external clues
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28/04/2011 13:32 <BulletsAndDoves> I just sense and know what's gonna happen, I don't know. That's why I don't really like doing much of anything because I know the outcome already of things usually and so I'm all 'what's the point'
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28/04/2011 13:32 <poli> just person to person kinda thing
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28/04/2011 13:32 <poli> its just kinda weird, not something i would classify as a function, u know
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28/04/2011 13:31 <poli> well i kind of get it, can see it play out in reality
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28/04/2011 13:31 <Uniden> I hope my response was to your satisfaction, laghlagh.
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28/04/2011 13:31 <BulletsAndDoves> LOL I understand, it's healthy to be skeptical about things
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28/04/2011 13:31 <BulletsAndDoves> I knew my mom was gonna get hurt one time and I tried to warn her and she broke her wrist , it was weird lol - nobody else in my family really sensed it. (not bragging or saying im special its just weird)
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28/04/2011 13:30 <poli> hmm, i figure that a lot of people who say that might just be brainwashed, no offense lol
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28/04/2011 13:30 <BulletsAndDoves> well i am super intuitive and psychic at times lol
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28/04/2011 13:30 <poli> im really imaginative, and dont really pay attention to reality enuf to get into that
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28/04/2011 13:29 <poli> Ni ego is into like, predictions and stuff?
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28/04/2011 13:29 <poli> not necessarily for someone else
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28/04/2011 13:29 <BulletsAndDoves> Actually most likely Ni-ego like me
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28/04/2011 13:29 <poli> for me
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28/04/2011 13:28 <BulletsAndDoves> You probably are.
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28/04/2011 13:28 <poli> it sounds the funnest
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28/04/2011 13:28 <poli> id just rather be some N dominant lol
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28/04/2011 13:28 <BulletsAndDoves> really? I always thought Ni was like that heh
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28/04/2011 13:28 <poli> i can kinda relate to that
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28/04/2011 13:28 <Uniden> Ok, laghlagh, I finished the post. I'm thinking about reviewing it before posting it, though...
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28/04/2011 13:27 <poli> in MBTI, Ti is the thing that figures stuff out without proper knowledge
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28/04/2011 13:27 <BulletsAndDoves> so I always assosciated Ti with more 'raw intellectualism' and Te more with 'business logic'
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28/04/2011 13:26 <poli> yeah, im like anti-knowledge
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28/04/2011 13:26 <poli> hmm
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28/04/2011 13:26 <BulletsAndDoves> but he seem sto have this filter in his brain that 'all knowledge is important' and just absorbs it all like a sponge
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28/04/2011 13:26 <BulletsAndDoves> Maybe it isn't. this is all just a theory after all
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28/04/2011 13:26 <poli> bye, have fun on the bussss
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28/04/2011 13:25 <Uniden> Goodbye, Abbie.
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28/04/2011 13:25 <poli> i didnt know that was Ti anyway
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28/04/2011 13:25 <BulletsAndDoves> I could care less
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28/04/2011 13:25 <Director Abbie> My ride is here. Bye.
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28/04/2011 13:25 <BulletsAndDoves> so do I
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28/04/2011 13:25 <poli> not just saying that
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28/04/2011 13:25 <poli> well fyi, i suck at trivia games, probably more than anyone i know
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28/04/2011 13:25 <BulletsAndDoves> lol it is kinda boring I suppose.
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28/04/2011 13:24 <BulletsAndDoves> I view Ti more as you know, trivial knowledge- and facts about a bunch of disconnected shit, like my intj dad is really good at trivia games and stuff
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28/04/2011 13:24 <poli> im not really that logical or systematic, i just get into that stuff sometimes
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28/04/2011 13:24 <poli> just more that Ti as a dominant function seems really boring
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28/04/2011 13:24 <Director Abbie> Laf, when I decided on my enneagram type, I read the descriptions, threw out the ones I wasn't, read them again, and picked the one I was most. That was the 1. 6 got second place, 2 got third place, 4, 3, 7, 8, 5, 9, 0...or something like that.
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28/04/2011 13:23 <poli> no its nothing against Ti vs Te
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28/04/2011 13:23 <BulletsAndDoves> so how you Te-valuing then if you're not Ti?
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28/04/2011 13:23 <BulletsAndDoves> Why do you say that? Because infps are ******s? And Ashton is a straight male entj and omre aggressive than me? LoL I think that's quite silly.
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28/04/2011 13:23 <poli> like if i were to think of a personality type for myself just from reading descriptions of logic, intuition, thinking, or whatelse. i would probably type myself some intuition dominant
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28/04/2011 13:22 <jughead> anyone here an ese, lie, or sli?
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28/04/2011 13:22 <poli> i feel kinda like Ti is too boring and weak of a term to describe my being. what do you think its all about?
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28/04/2011 13:21 <Uniden> I have my suspicions of why laghlagh doesn't find your response satisfactory, Abbie. But, I would rather not speak for her.
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28/04/2011 13:21 <BulletsAndDoves> Never heard Ti being described in that way before lol
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28/04/2011 13:20 <Uniden> mhmm
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28/04/2011 13:19 <poli> i do kind of try, maybe thats 5-ish, but i usually disregard those thoughts after like a day
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28/04/2011 13:19 <Director Abbie> But I decide my type through multiple choice.
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28/04/2011 13:19 <poli> Ti seems to create stable consistent systems, where as i dont really trust them and prob more into what others think