although i didn't say i would end the relationship because of it (i mean if someone's important to me, they can be a murderer and they'll still be important to me). i do see it as mattering though because i like kittens and they're helpless creatures and this person is torturing them and i can't not do something about that. i mean i guess for this to work i'd have to know just how close this person is and the specifics... i am prone to regularly being unsure of relationships with most people and so a factor like this can tip the balance rather significantly especially since it would probably send all of my previous doubts screaming to the surface as one causing me to mull it over for a very long time... i mean often with torturing animals, it evolves to torturing people (although this too would depend on my feelings, as i might feel that in their case maybe not), so to me this would be a serious concern and also a question regarding my personal safety (although i mean this really is hypothetical because i probably wouldn't have ended up near this person to begin with because i probably would have gotten some feeling early on that it wasn't safe and went the other way, but anyway). it would largely depend on which doubts i've already had regarding the relationship and what realizations hit due to the new info about the person changing my conception of who they are and therefore also about how they may actually feel about me (were they using me? is there any genuine feeling of friendship? is anything between us a figment of my imagination?) i guess it just also depends on the stage of the relationship... for instance i don't doubt things about my immediate family members as i know who they are and what our relationship is... but anyone i met who is more in the friend category, i mean it would already have to be a certain kind of relationship for me to have not detected this. the main problem is that they are hurting others (it's an actually act, not simply a view). and to me torturing animals is basically as bad as torturing people (as i certainly wouldn't want to be a torture victim and i would hope that someone would stop the person doing it if they knew).Originally Posted by polikujm
Since I already have a relationship with this person, it's going to be hard for some objective factor to change that. I don't think antype would see a factor like that as mattering, because it doesn't effect the relationship.
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does with intuition, etc. I hate when people get the two information elements confused though, it's so frustrating having to explain why... I just don't 
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