Socionics relationship between your parents

[Creepy-male]

Extraverts would divorce, Introverts would probably sink beneath the surface of the earth, never to be seen from or heard of ever again.

[munenori2]

Hmm, I don't know any LSEs that I would say are fond of exaggeration. This is just a tiny piece of information, but it definitely points to ESE > LSE.

Yeah man, I agree. I only really typed her as LSE when I first came to socionics. But hell, back then I thought I was EII and Katy Perry was LSE.

lolz

[1981slater]

I can only think of one that might be an identical marriage (two SEEs). Other than that, they are mostly dual couples.

I know a guy whose parents are both SEE, he's SEE and his sister is SEE. They are gypsies, and I think that most people of this ethnicity are sensors.

[Blaze]

Agreed. My illusionary and I are both irrationals. And I'm a Feeler and he's a Thinker. We sometimes seem more like semi-duals, too. And sometimes like business.

it does feel like business sometimes! wow...that really resonates with me, too. perhaps the Ne/Ni interaction produces this feeling?

the logic-ethics axis seems more important relationally than the sensing-intuitive axis. but it guess it really all depends on contextual factors. it seems like i've had beta relationships for so long, i'm more used to it.

[Blaze]

Interesting, why would that be?

it's what i've observed anecdotally, but confirmed in _the mathmatics of marriage_

the idea is that communication problems tend to intensify exponentially. the greater the inherent differences in expectations the sooner the marriage unravels. rick posted about this book in one of his blogs.

i'd further theorize that the greater the discrepancy in expectations vis a vis socionics, the sooner the marriage unravels.

i know of one conflict marriage. the couple, IEI and LSE, split up after about 7 years, no children involved. massive differences in expectations. one clear different was their orientation towards money. the LSE was a saver and planner, the IEI spent money like water. this last, though is the perception of my delta parents, so naturally, what they focus on is more in favor of the LSE.

i would speculate that opposing quadra marriages would be the ones to last 7 years or less.

adjoining quadra relations could last 11 - 20 years, depending on whether there was competition between partners (eg, static-static, logical-logical and so forth). for example, perhaps illusionary, semi dual, benefit could last a little longer.

this whole thread is increasing my anxiety though. coming out of a divorce, you can clearly look back and see why things didn't work in your marriage, so you strive to avoid those making those mistakes again. i worry about the differences in expectations i have with my current partner and how these will express themselves over a long time frame.

[pianosinger]

it does feel like business sometimes! wow...that really resonates with me, too. perhaps the Ne/Ni interaction produces this feeling?

the logic-ethics axis seems more important relationally than the sensing-intuitive axis.

I think so.

[1981slater]

Hello!

[redbaron]

Hello!

Hi Slater.

[Ave]

Interesting to see so many dual parents. Maybe its not just a coincidence.

My dad is INTp and my mom INFj so benefit where my dad is the benefactor.

[The Ineffable]

Come to think of it, I don't believe I know ANY identical marriages whatsoever. Anyone else?

That is a quite remarkable observation...

[The Ineffable]

Oh crap, my brother and his gf are SLI identicals.

Edit: okay, they are not married and they are together for 2 years or something.

[PistolShrimp]

My dad is SLE, and my mom is SEI (possible ESE but unlikely), so they're probably illusionaries. Been together for almost 30 years now and still clearly love each other.

[Not A Communist Shill]

I must have missed this thread way back when. Fascinating results...even taking into account wishful thinking this is very telling data.

I was thinking of starting a thread investigating relationship length and type of relations, perhaps mostly utilising data from parents and grandparents for those who are younger! Perhaps this would be a better place. It would be interesting also to see if supposedly beneficial relations had an improved effect on lifespan, but I guess we wouldn't be able to get enough data.

[Amber]

Duals, but they have no idea.
My father would laugh Socionics off for useless BS and my mother would think it's a totally different kind of content that made it a solid relationship. And they'd both be right lol.

[darya]

It's actually really weird, but after a lot of time I actually figured out that my parents are duals My dad is LSI and mom is EIE. So we're basically a beta household. I have to say it's always been very passionate and reactive with lots of yelling and crying, but we love the shit out of each other <3

[Amber]

It's actually really weird, but after a lot of time I actually figured out that my parents are duals My dad is LSI and mom is EIE. So we're basically a beta household. I have to say it's always been very passionate and reactive with lots of yelling and crying, but we love the shit out of each other <3

who has been yelling and crying , LSI ?

[darya]

who has been yelling and crying , LSI ?

My mom (EIE) is a manipulative drama queen. Sometimes I feel like i'm on Broadway with her. So there's a lot of yelling, crying, solitary cool-down walks in the middle of the night with her. My dad can be pretty intimidating when he's pissed (6w5 cp), but he doesn't make emo scenes. I'm the "what the fuck just happened" child in the middle, who makes them both cry in a second when they "really" push my buttons

[suedehead]

I think my dad was either my mom's supervisor (LSE-SEI), or kindred (SLI-SEI). Although I'm having doubts about the former since it often looked like she was supervising him. He's kind of hard to type.

[Amber]

My mom (EIE) is a manipulative drama queen. Sometimes I feel like i'm on Broadway with her. So there's a lot of yelling, crying, solitary cool-down walks in the middle of the night with her. My dad can be pretty intimidating when he's pissed (6w5 cp), but he doesn't make emo scenes. I'm the "what the fuck just happened" child in the middle, who makes them both cry in a second when they "really" push my buttons

I think it also depends on background ....but this is my picture of female EIE according to some stuff I've read on this forum. I don't know any EIE women irl.

[darya]

hahaha @AshSun, it IS something like that i get along with her fabulously and she adores me, but all that theatrical Fe is driving me crazy sometimes. But I still much, much prefer the drama to "let's pretend everything is a-ok, although we hate each other guts" type of families. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

[ConcreteButterfly]

Wow there are more dual couples than I expected. My parents are super egos.

and @redbaron, I have not seen an identical marriage either, how interesting. It must feel a bit like marrying your brother/sister.
Seen a lot of illisionaries though.

It's actually really weird, but after a lot of time I actually figured out that my parents are duals My dad is LSI and mom is EIE. So we're basically a beta household. I have to say it's always been very passionate and reactive with lots of yelling and crying, but we love the shit out of each other <3

This is not limited to beta households, lol.

Duals, but they have no idea.
My father would laugh Socionics off for useless BS and my mother would think it's a totally different kind of content that made it a solid relationship. And they'd both be right lol.

What types are they?

[Amber]

What types are they?

LIE-ESI. Got together after 30 and after they'd had their experiences and failures, which I think also accounts for how their marriage worked out.