Beta "Victim-Aggressor" conqueror-prize dynamics

[ladyinred]

Conquerors: ESTp, ISTj
These are assertive types who do not flinch at their own sexuality. They will express their own desire without reservation. They are won over by direct shows of submission (only after feeling that they have earned it). He will be insulted if his romantic interest gives him his title without question, and bored if the fight is too easily won. He, like the Pseudo-Aggressor and the Challenger, is questing to find his equal. Someone he can play his almost sadistic games with without "breaking."

Challengers/Prize: INFp, ENFj
These are the types who unconsciously throw a "gauntlet" down for their opponents. They know on an almost subliminal level exactly who they are looking for, and anyone who does not fit the bill will be subjected to a rather flakey, hot-cold game of courting tag. As a result, they may appear (both to others and to themselves) rather amorphous and can take on qualities of the other romantic attitudes, depending on the situation and who they are "challenging." They may, for example, give the victim half his aggressor, the psuedo-aggressor a little victim, the caregiver a bit of his child, etc. They react best, however, to those who do not "break" as a result of their games, but grant them a level of autonomy. Healthy examples of this type will have a sense of self-esteem, and may think of themselves as the "prize" that will be given only to the rightful owner.

I SOOO do this
Although, sometimes it really is unconscious!

I have always thought of myself as a prize to be earned in a way and yet I am totally and 100 percent devoted when I am with someone who has earned me, I have noticed it is almost only SLEs and LSIs who are able, and willing perhaps, to rise to this challenge. I used to think it would annoy guys, after bad experiences with nonBetas, and maybe its annoyed some, but theyre not the ones for me then. Are others here the same?? I'd love to hear from other Beta NFs and especially Beta STs

[DirectorAbbie]

SLE male fights SLE male. One wins IEI female. How nicely stereotypical.

[rat1]

SLE male fights SLE male. One wins IEI female. How nicely stereotypical.

Religiously brainwashed & psychosexually retarded girl marries a pervert and gets her kids molested.. meh stereotypical.

[Creepy-Snaps]

Sheltered Delta believes strongly in God, marries a pervert and gets her kids molested.. meh stereotypical.

Religiously brainwashed & psychosexually retarded girl marries a pervert and gets her kids molested.. meh stereotypical.

Hurt individuals editing their posts to try to deliver maximum pain to another person over the internet, as a way of coping, how stereotypical.

[rat1]

You never think twice about what you say? You don't think and then modify your thoughts in your mind? Well that explains alot I guess.

 

Get fucked by black cocks.

[DividedsGhost]

Following the teachings of Poli, I think this thread could use some gay battle music. KEEPING ON FIGHTING TO THE MUSIC!

[Saoshyant]

Is there a link for Gamma aggressors/victims?

[Creepy-male]

Its for this reason I actually like beta, this stuff sounds a lot more interesting than the stuff that is written about the other quadras.

[redbaron]

Its for this reason I actually like beta, this stuff sounds a lot more interesting than the stuff that is written about the other quadras.

HLD, I often sorta think of you as SLE. Even though I guess your self-type is ILE?

[Creepy-male]

Any Se I have is fake role-Se at best, I could see myself as LSI if I was beta ST more so than SLE.... but honestly I think any Se I give off is from the role function being expressed... I've been considering a beta subtype, but I think LII or ILE is the closest type to what I am.

Haha also starfall hates me, she would be grossly offended if I happened to become a member of beta quadra, she would be grossly offended if I ever so much as considered the notion.... but I don't really care, I'm after the truth here! but like I said, I lean to ILE the most now so rest assured, beta quadra is not infested by the likes of me.

[MatthewZ]

Is there a link for Gamma aggressors/victims?

Psuedo-Aggressors/Employee: INTp, ENTj
These are types who exhibit aggressive tendencies in their everyday life, and as a result tend to carry over these notions and temperaments into their romantic life. They typically are not comfortable with connotations of the word "victim" - implying a certain weakness, effeteness, and lack of dignity. In searching for a partner, they are looking for a worthy opponent - someone who is strong enough to withstand their quirks without "breaking" so to speak.

Aggressors/Employer: ESFp, ISFj
These types, like the conquerors, express their sexuality openly. In daily life they may tend to be rather submissive and as a result may tend to carry over these tendencies into their romantic life. They are won over by indirect acts of submission, and are thrilled when their love interest (in the case of the "psuedo-aggressor" type) acts unlike himself. In a partner, they are looking for their equal - someone whose solid facade they can break down piece by piece.

(taken from: similarminds.com :: View topic - More on socionics and sex, which links back to an old thread of ours I'm still trying to find)

[CloudCuckooLander]

I definitely see myself as a male example of a prize, in a sense - I'm very subtle and indirect with women, yet romantic commitment is one of my absolute top priorities in life. I tend to be with someone if I've seen them as permanently winning over my heart, and then see my future plans as all including them, consisting almost entirely of a blissful and happy life with them - it was relatively fine with my first ex-girlfriend (EIE), a relationship that lasted a year, but somewhat creeped out my SEE ex-girlfriend, a relationship that lasted 5 months, after a very intense and passionate first two months where she felt the same way. I'm still not over her, and frankly doubt I'll ever be - I still consider myself entirely hers, and want nothing more than that happy future in which I can protect her and be there with her.