What do we think Michael Jackson's personality type is based on VI?? I'm really really sorry, I could not resist...
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What do we think Michael Jackson's personality type is based on VI?? I'm really really sorry, I could not resist...
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You know, he kind of looks like my Psychology teacher...
Binary or dichotomous systems, although regulated by a principle, are among the most artificial arrangements that have ever been invented. -- William Swainson, A Treatise on the Geography and Classification of Animals (1835)
What's up with his nose? It looks like it has to be held together with tape or something.
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That is why INFJs have weird reputations.Originally Posted by CuriousSoul
MJ is IXFpee hee
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Actually... I am not so sure anymore. Not after this picture anyway :wink: . I had my reasons, he does seem to be balancing his physical side Si in quite a literal way... but I really should stop making these pointless type guesses, and sometimes it just happens that VI does not quite seem to be applicable, wonder why...Originally Posted by Pedro-the-Lion
I do not know, there are so many type claims, and no way to verify any of them. He might well test as INFP, but a lot of INFJs do, and in my opinion for example his control freakish style of organizing his life and work is much more compatible with INFJ than INFP. The same goes for his shyness and the conduct of his private life - he does not seek extroverted sensing. Also just google some pictures of him, his emotions are of quite private nature, in his songs he expresses his own emotions Fi and does not quite posses the confidence to impose his emotions on others that comes from having extroverted feeling, Ethics of Emotions Fe as the second function, a conscious function of authority. On the other hand from very early on he was highly self confident of his own creative powers. This could testify to Ne being a creative function. I would also claim that musical creativity is more about creative intuition and sensing rather than about logic and ethics, but it is just my personal opinion.Originally Posted by krae
"Arnie is strong, rightfully angry and wants to kill somebody."
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Heres my honest take:
Michael Jackson is IXFX. Im not sure if he's P or J, but Im pretty sure about introversion and feeeeeeeling.
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I keep seeing on examples for each personality that M.J. is ISFP. I think if he still is ISFP he is a bad example for ISFP personality group .
Before he got whacked out.
I went to a class on identifying various type of substance abuse and he was an example of someone that used allot of hallucinogens.
He does seem like Duma
My experance with Dumas is they always have a good grasp of what looks good.
But I think he is way drugged out and does not know what he is doing.
ESFP ?
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that is what i was getting at. if there is an inescapable appropriation that is required in the act of understanding, this brings into question the validity of socionics in describing what is real, and hence stubborn contradictions that continue to plague me.
What makes you think so?Originally Posted by Dioklecian
I am not saying you are wrong, it just sounds interesting.
I typed him as INFJ before, but now I am not so sure.
"Arnie is strong, rightfully angry and wants to kill somebody."
martin_g_karlsson
Too fucked up to type. He isn't even his own person. He has been shaped since he was born.
INFP (or ISFP).
"Wenn der Deutsche in einen Satz taucht, dann hat man ihn die längste Zeit gesehen, bis er auf der anderen Seite des Ozeans wieder auftaucht mit seinem Verb im Mund." - Mark Twain
INFP
I would probably lean toward some sort of IXFx type.
I do however like "Thriller", and "Billy Jean" has a great groove, and he is very talented, especially with that moonwalk
IXFp, probably INFp.
Extremely talented and very productive in collaboration with Quincy Jones. I especially like his funkier stuff like "Rock With You", "Remember The Time" and "Liberian Girl".
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
Quincy Jones is a master producer. He did some great stuff with James Ingram as well.
And a whole bunch of others ...Originally Posted by steve6
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
Indeed Now is he still producing?
And I agree Jackson seems INFp
No idea ...Originally Posted by steve6
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
It's been typed ENFj by Rick, but INFp fits more IMHO.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
michael jackson is not a person, he's a product
that's what he was raised to be and it's all he knows
Aw, f**k you.Originally Posted by Joy
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
it's not his fault, entirely
And it's not a bad thing. Music is a product as well as an artform and Micheal Jackson happens to be a very well made product.Originally Posted by Joy
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I think hes quite individual. I doesn't seem at all to me that he has just done what others tell himOriginally Posted by Joy
I used to love him when i was younger. Its sad what has happened to him
ENFp (Unsure of Subtype)
"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
Don't worry about Joy- she says that all celebrities aren't real people. *shrugs* It's not really a reflection on Micheal Jackson specifically.Originally Posted by Starfall
Interesting since BrainTypes says that Micheal Jackson typifies the whole INFP gestures thing...In the first interview that I posted, his gestures reminded me a lot of my own.
Michael Jackson was Ni-EIE. (Same type as John Lennon, ******... Hell, even me.)
Last night, I saw a special on Larry fuckin King about him.
They were interviewing several people re: his death.
Michael's best friend, Miko Brando, (Marlon's son,) is Se-LSI... His good friends Liza Minnelli is EIE and Usher is SLE.
Michael Jackson lived out his Ni-ENFj delusions of grandeur... For the release of his album HIStory, he floated a 50 ft statue of himself down the Thames River through central London. He coined his own over-blown moniker, "the King of Pop."
Last night on Larry King, his friends remembered him as "focused," and "constantly studying" other performers in attempt to improve and be the best in the world. (It seems that many people would agree that he was.)
Like some other well-known Ni-ENFjs, he was reclusive off-stage... But onstage, almost an "entirely different person," to quote someone from last night's show. (Similar things have been said about ******, and even Freddie Mercury--other Ni-ENFjs.)
Lennon was Ti ENTp, you're ENFp, and Jackson was INFj.
I love you.
The end is nigh
i love you too.
all of your posts tow the Socionix photo gallery party line... no original thinking... i may be falling out of love, now that i think of it
think about what you're saying:
an INFj floating a 50 ft statue of himself down the thames.
you either don't know the subject being typed, or don't know Socionics... I don't think you know either, (demonstrated ad nauseum by what you post on this forum.)
lol.
Come join the party!
(btw Ashton thinks your INFp so go figure!)
The end is nigh
John Lennon is Ti ENTp. Not sure about Jacksons type, but INFp I wouldnt throw out the window. I can see ENFj-Ni too, but IMO he is too introverted for that.
his introverted shyness could be a ploy
seems like it might be to me...
he seems to be trying to hide his arrogance/vanity
but you catch tints of it in his eyes/voice when he speaks.
at least, to me it seems so.
but, IEI seems more and more probable as we discuss it on here.
also, along with that sort of image he tries to project, it seems like he tries to manipulate a bit... which may be more EIE-like, but that's not a very reliable point to support him being that type... really, an IEI could be manipulative as well, and even more probably seem like a confident EIE with the lifestyle of Jackson-- with lots of cash... or at least, lots of power to get what he wants. (i say this because i'm pretty sure he was really in debt? at least thats what i hear, and it would make sense)
*shrug* maybe he puts on his "EIE charm" to get what he wants, if he was in debt... i mean how the fuck did he get all that shit if he was 4 million dollars in debt or wahtever? charm, right? connections? people, etc...
so there. thats my 2-cents
"If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann
Another thing; the fact that Jackson even seemed to have that sort of different "persona" on stage different from off it, sort of suggests EIE to me... As a whole, isn't that an EIE thing? The "characters" they create and play. Like whats his name... Freddy Mercury... Salvador Dali.
"If you can find out little melodies for yourself on the piano it is all very well. But if they come of themselves when you are not at the piano, then you have still greater reason to rejoice; for then the inner sense of music is astir in you. The fingers must make what the head wills, not vice versa."- Robert Schumann
pluie... you sum up my reasoning for MJ = Ni-EIE well in the above two posts... I think a lot of MJ was "act," down to that Marilyn Monroe little-girl whisper... (If you hear him really talk, it's totally different.)
You either don't know John Lennon well or don't know Model A Socionics well. He's a benchmark Ni-EIE.
Ti-ENTp is the traditional Socionix typing of him, and it is as dead wrong now as it ever was. (Here's why: there's nothing at all Si-valuing about John Lennon... Or Ne... At all... I refer you to all the lyrics he's written, his two books, and the definitive bio ny Norman.)
The lyrics to "In My Life" (Beatles) is FeNi... Not to mention "Julia," "Dear Prudence," "Revolution" etc. They're all FeNi... Everything about them... There's no Ne or Ti--according to ou, his base functions--in these lyrics... Please read the lyrics to any of Lennon's solo material and you will realize that any typing other than ENFj macht keinen Sinn.
Lennon's wife--and supposed soul-mate--Yoko Ono is Se-ISTj.
Same argument for John Lennon as Michael Jackson... Musician with a God complex... "just a boy/trying to change the whole wide-world" to quote the lyrics from the song "Isolation," from Plastic Ono Band.) Pretty similar sentiment to "Man in the Mirror," and "Imagine" = "Heal the World."
And these are just lyrics! Please read about their personal lives as well... Their loves and values...
McCartney however is alpha... and that may be confusing you.
McCartney = Alpha SF Fe subtype ftw, probably SEI-Fe.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...