Reinin's Book

[xerx]

I'm sure that was nowhere near his intent.
Of course it is. That is what is aimed for at least.

Hence certainty.

[Crispy]

There is not 100% certainty in a regular self defense situation.
Bad guy is attempting to kill your family.
You decide to stop him.
Your family is dead.
You attack.
Bad guy is dead.
You go to jail for murder, because you attacked too late (not self-defense anymore).

Your waiting for a 100% certainty (because clearly there were more unseen consequences) would end with a worse situation. The mother fucker got away.

(I didn't know there were so many people against the death penalty here: "Nobody's really bad!": poor mislead souls.)

[Creepy-male]

SEI description what.

It's probably explanation enough for what I was reading that Julius Caesar was listed as a celebrity SEI.

[Crispy]

There are two lists of Celebrities for each type in the book. One is from Reinen, and one is horribly wrong (The ALL CAPS ones I believe). I would ignore the famous descriptions and focus on the theoretical points (which are correct). Works just like all socionics articles.

Proof: Carl Jung is listed under both LII and ILI.

[Creepy-male]

I would ignore the famous descriptions and focus on the theoretical points (which are correct).

Which are relatively frequently wrong, disputable, or clouded in poor choice of wording; that is to say, while some points are correct, these are the minority.

DISAPPOINTMENT.

or c) I am not a Dumas.

Proof: Carl Jung is listed under both LII and ILI.

I believe at this juncture we have reached an accord that the type of Carl Jung is indisputably ILI.

/necromeme

[Crispy]

Which are relatively frequently wrong, disputable, or clouded in poor choice of wording; that is to say, while some points are correct, these are the minority.

DISAPPOINTMENT.

or c) I am not a Dumas.



I believe at this juncture we have reached an accord that the type of Carl Jung is indisputably ILI.

/necromeme

If you got the time I'd read the other 15 descriptions as well. Some said they differentiated the types better than anything linked before.

I'm certain Jung is either ILI or LII, leaning towards ILI.

[Creepy-male]

Some said they differentiated the types better than anything linked before.

I'm not following. Why would I want to do that?

[The Exception]

You don't relate to that part? All Ti types do more or less, but LIIs being obstinate coupled with Ti dominance should have all the reason to relate to that.

I don't relate to it either. (or maybe I'm just in denial :wink
I fit the ILE description better and the reinin dichotomies associated with ILE. Maybe I am an ILE.

There are two lists of Celebrities for each type in the book. One is from Reinen, and one is horribly wrong (The ALL CAPS ones I believe). I would ignore the famous descriptions and focus on the theoretical points (which are correct). Works just like all socionics articles.

Proof: Carl Jung is listed under both LII and ILI.

Drew Barrymore is listed as both SEE and SEI.


I finally got around to reading over the book and noticed that much of the text is red or highlighted. Is there a rhyme or reason to it or just what the translator happened to think was pertinent?

[717495]

Those famous lists are mixed up by accident if you can't tell already, probably due to translation error. Reinin's list is fine, but the second list is SEE instead of SEI, etc.

I don't relate to it either. (or maybe I'm just in denial :wink
I fit the ILE description better and the reinin dichotomies associated with ILE. Maybe I am an ILE.

Yeah Reinin LIIs seem a lot more closed-off in this weird linear way with their thinking, finding conclusion after conclusion when Ne is really active. ILEs are more open and indecisive, naturally accepting Ne most of the time instead.

[Nowisthetime]

SEI description what.

I liked the part about SEIs knowing their own feelings but being bad at introspection. I think my own private concept of "introspection" is knowing ones feelings, and what else is there to know?