Ne types vs Ni types and memory

[Ave]

It seems to me that types have much worse memory than types, who actually have excellent memory. Im not sure why this is, but in my observations of the two types they seem that way. I remember an ENFp friend as a teenager telling me he didnt remember most things. Ive always had excellent memory except for most events though not trying to brag though now I feel my memory has gotten weaker maybe because of all the pot I smoked, lol. Seriously though what are your thoughts on this? True or false?

PS: To all the types out there Im sorry if im turning into Hugo making seem like you are inferior somehow, that is not the case you guys just suck at remembering things, Im sure you're good at plenty of other stuff though.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

Well your analysis is true for me. Because I have a super de duper uber good memory. I can't just let things go and go with the flow like alphas/deltas want me to though. So it's not all sunshine and lollipops either. But I can't help it as it's just the way my brain functions.

[Ave]

Because I have a super de duper uber good memory. I can't just let things go and go with the flow like alphas/deltas want me to though. So it's not all sunshine and lollipops either. But I can't help it as it's just the way my brain functions.

Yeah, I know what you're saying the whole "just relax" thing is a stress to my POLR. The more they tell me to relax, the more it makes me paranoid. I dont wanna derail this thread I just relate to what you're saying(trying to make use of my 7th function you see).

[blankblank]

LOL Yeah, my memory isn't the greatest. Things kinda run together or I just plain forget them altogether...not useful when I'm trying to introspect.

[CILi]

My memory's pretty solid, but I'm not sure recall is necessarily "worse" than . Maybe just different.

In my potentially REALLY off-base view, 's like teleporting directly from NOW to MEMORY, in the fastest possible straight line; whereas zig-zags all over the place, bouncing from point-to-point in 3-D space 'til it eventually hits that same MEMORY. One path's a heck of a lot more efficient, but the other makes some pretty interesting stops along the way. Both trains have the same destination, but might be more likely to get lost on some crazy tangent and never bother getting to where it was headed in the first place.

[xerx]

In a sense I agree with the OP. Why remember a ton of facts about a problem when you can build your own creative solution in the process of confronting it, cleverly inducting it from the available materials, like a game of wits? Plus remembering a huge swathe of details about something sui generis distracts from the ability to generalize it to a more abstract and encompassing classification.

[Azeroffs]

Depends on what memories you're talking about. types will remember things within the realm of , and will remember things with the realm of .

Like in general intuitive types will remember their impression of something more than explicit details of things.

[Ave]

Depends on what memories you're talking about. types will remember things within the realm of , and will remember things with the realm of .

I meant more memories related to events/experiences

[xerx]

Never memorize something that you can look up. --Einstein.

[Creepy-male]

Depends on what memories you're talking about. types will remember things within the realm of , and will remember things with the realm of .

And Ne bases will be able to construct new Ne information from remembered Ne, etc.

Makes me wonder if there's some sort of link between I/E and how memory-intensive elements are. Because humans obviously have limited storage space, right? Eventually you run out of space. I would think different elements leave less or more unused space.

[Azeroffs]

Hey Azer, didn't you say before that you had really bad memory?

Yeah I do.

[Logos]

Thank you.

[Beautiful sky]

Thank you.

It is type related because I've noticed that my mom, who is a Ni base, and my father, who is Ni role, can both remember a lot of stuff, whereas I can not. These things they remember are things in Time/event line. My memory is in processes, things in evolution.

[Mattie]

I have an excellent memory when it comes to past events, peoples' preferences, faces, maps, directions, and smell. I have horrible 5-second memory, it's possible that if you ask me to repeat something I wasn't planning on remembering just after I said it, I would have completely forgot it. Read the above.

[silverchris9]

...not type related.

[tiny_dancer]

I remember things I need to remember and forget things I don't give a shit about.

[Beautiful sky]

I wish I could remember detailed and S type of information like my dual can, but in the mean while, I remember interesting ideas and sources where interesting ideas and new/novel solutions can be found. I also remember more Si stuff now then ever.

[Ave]

...not type related.

Not a rule, just a trend.

[Brilliand]

Type-related, but rather subjective. I'll go with the theory that the type of information that's remembered is IE-related. Memory of events, especially events with dates, would be most suited for Gamma NTs. On the other hand, we know what Alpha NTs like to discuss... and that's also what we'll remember: theoretical constructs. Whether someone has a "good memory" will depend on what they're asked to remember.

[silverchris9]

Type-related, but rather subjective. I'll go with the theory that the type of information that's remembered is IE-related. Memory of events, especially events with dates, would be most suited for Gamma NTs. On the other hand, we know what Alpha NTs like to discuss... and that's also what we'll remember: theoretical constructs. Whether someone has a "good memory" will depend on what they're asked to remember.

Okay, I'll buy that. It probably doesn't have a perfect correlation to type (nothing does), but I'd bet it would be a statistically significant relationship, were it possible to test for such things reliably.

[Blaze]

It seems to me that types have much worse memory than types, who actually have excellent memory. Im not sure why this is, but in my observations of the two types they seem that way. I remember an ENFp friend as a teenager telling me he didnt remember most things. Ive always had excellent memory except for most events though not trying to brag though now I feel my memory has gotten weaker maybe because of all the pot I smoked, lol. Seriously though what are your thoughts on this? True or false?

PS: To all the types out there Im sorry if im turning into Hugo making seem like you are inferior somehow, that is not the case you guys just suck at remembering things, Im sure you're good at plenty of other stuff though.

i can remember salient facts from every year of my 46 that i've been alive. i remember what i feel is important though. and what i feel is important may be different than what other people feel is important. my family members frequently remind me of things that happened in the past that i can't...but i do keep a timeline in my mind...all the time.

[redbaron]

i can remember salient facts from every year of my 46 that i've been alive. i remember what i feel is important though. and what i feel is important may be different than what other people feel is important.

yeah, same here. it's weird getting together with my brother and sharing memories cause we each remember some completely different things!

[crazymaisy]

I have memories from when I was Two years old or even before, for certain at two years, and clear detail of anything. I recall things I did, places went, lived, went to school, teachers, classes, groups, friends ... we moved to another region when I was 7, then to a totally different State when I was 13, then a few more times after that in a basic area in that State & I can recall everything about everything ... then there's all the stuff since I grew up, I'm 44 now and add more and more and more info all the time. Practically nothing ever really filters, always able to call it up if some reason something triggers the thoughts, or sometimes for no reason at all.

That's just real life stuff. Now then there's the ILI inner imaginary worlds ... detail upon detail from many mind journeys available at will.

My SEE hubby has a terrible memory. I pump him for information and it's the most horrible job to get him to remember anything. Often he only remembers something because I show him pictures of him as a child, and piece it with something his father told me about him ... and "remember his childhood" for him. Sometimes he'll come up with something out of the blue and it's really weird. The thing is, it's in his mind, just doesn't come to the front of his conscious very often or easily. It usually takes much priming and pumping before it comes out. I share tons of things from my life with our children, and he's mostly silent. It's not a "guy thing" vs a "girl thing" it's his lack of reflection mostly, I'd say, thinking not being his strong suit, neither is intuition.

Of my experiences in life, hardly anyone else I've ever met seems to have had such a good memory as I did. I can recall things my pastor has said and then another time he says something quite contradictorily, and when it's something that is talk-able to him about he totally will reject that he ever said the previous thing, personal conversations or in his sermons even.

I've come to understand that what I mean by "I feel" is totally different by what he means by "I feel" or "emotion" means something different to him than me, like how very few movies can make me cry, but one does every time I see it, and he calls me "emotional" and I say, "no, I'm just emotive about that movie" which for me is a tissue sobbing affair that has to do with the circumstances of the story, which makes me think deeply about the circumstances and "feel what they feel through the movie" but it's so much more than that. I'm just a quiet crier in this case, not sobbing loudly, sniffling yes, have to blow my nose and blot my eyes, yes. It's contained though.

"Emotional" to me means what happens when someone lets their insides out for all to see. That's not me, ever. I'm always more reserved than not, even when I'm really outgoing when the circumstances dictate.

I'm going into this because I have the ILI's Ni & Te excellent memory and he has not. He's a SEE and would go through life chatting on the phone for work or pleasure, surfing sports sites, watching girly movies (I mean girl movies, like I don't like at all, I prefer Classic movies, action, adventure, fantasy, sci-fi, some horror, drama, black comedies, some comedies, but not many.) Like one movie I tease him about, he'd rather watch 27 Dresses, and I couldn't stand it the one time I had to watch it with him, and have had to see parts of it again ... ugh. He really does like it, and other movies I'd put in a similar category. Blech.

So then the movie I cry about is an American remake of a French Film, it's Sommersby. The love and honor and deceit are just so well depicted, but HE doesn't like it, not like I do, has no reaction to it at all. I'm not stating this so someone can tell me how terrible Sommersby is compared to the French movie. I'm speaking to the issue of the movie as a stand alone which is a nice period piece of post-Civil War Tennessee & I like the treatment of the story, it's plausible. So if ... draws me in.

Also watching TV shows, I'll laugh at something, and 30 seconds later he laughs at the same thing, but it's like it takes the full thing to play out before it's funny to him, whereas I see where it's going and get the funny before it's played out. I'm not saying it's "memory" but it's something nearly tangible but hard to put into words ... it's more a picture or a template of that, and it's "just like" memory stuff him and me. FWIW

[Aleksei]

My memory sucks. My IEI best friend's memory is awesome.