Type me by my answers to these questions

[Creepy-male]

Who are you?

I'm Gul.

What are you interests?

Interesting things

Maths, mechanics, World of Warcraft lore and theory, statistics, numbers,

What do you do for a living?

Mooch of mum while I'm studying

Are you in school? How do/did you like it?

University yeah. I enjoy it. Maths is great fun, and I enjoy reflecting about the overall big picture in this other unit I do where we're given readings and lectures and things.

Future goals? Past experiences?

Get work as a statistician. Getting a government job in the Australian Bureau of Statistics would be real swell, but I've gathered that's pretty far off.

Past experiences with what? My parents sucked, my school sucked, my entire life sucked; and then one day I woke up and stopped caring about it all. Then another day I woke up and it didn't suck any more. Today is a pretty good day in the grand scheme of things.

What are your friends like?

They're awesome. I tend to stay friends with interesting and fun people (typically people I can get positive reactions out of, or who don't mind me being silly). Boring people I tend to be diplomatically distant from. Anti-fun people are my mortal enemies, and so are people who generally like to stir up shit and unpleasantness (I appreciate that this is fun for that type of person, but it's not fun for me).

What would you say the focal point of your life is?

Being a blob and enjoying life. Avoiding being taxed or strained. Getting by calm and content. Genuine happiness is good too, but I don't bank on it, nor do I really trust it.

Beliefs? General thoughts about w/e?

The Universe is fundamentally complex. Models are good, but they're models. Simplify systems of thought, but always remember the world is never simple.

Everyone is right, just some people are more right or less right than others. There's a grain of truth in every opinion. Sometimes. Some people are just intellectually militant and overly dogmatic and don't really have anything of value to provide or contribute and should be avoided to preserve the peace. Other people have those grains of truth on a different beach on a different continent, so there's really no way of getting to it, but people who aren't you should be free to enjoy that understanding and knowledge, even if you yourself are unable to appreciate it.

Live and let live.

Fights happen, but conflict happens. Break the chain of hatred, walk away from people who like to start fights.

Life will challenge you, and it takes pride and courage to back down, as much as it does to stand firm in the onslaught of adversity. Know when it's time to put the cards down and walk away. Understand that this is not losing.

Pride is respect for your own dignity. Never forsake it, never compromise that of others.

Open-mindedness is good, and does not conflict with caution about new ideas. You can approach something hesitantly and more critically than usual and still give it a place for consideration.

Idealogical consistency, as much as possible. Don't feel bad when you're not 100% consistent; use that as an impetus to refine, expand, or distill your personal beliefs.

Nobody is perfect, nothing is perfect. Not in the real world.

There ought to be more confusion and chaos. Shatter people's expectations of stability, consistency, straightforwardness and predictability. This ties in with my belief in a complex Universe.

Paradoxes don't exist in three dimensions. Stop thinking like a square and start thinking like a human.

Women are important. Be proud of them, treat them well. They aren't men. What you can cope with she might not. What you can't cope with, she may well. This is invaluable.

More broadly, individuals are IN-DI-VISIBLE. Spell that out with me. What works for you may not work for someone else. Respect that, and respect that you yourself are an individual.

Maintain strict double standards. Treat yourself as well as you do other people.

Love is respect and protection. Be honest with yourself. If you're hurting her, you need to change. If you can't do that, grow some balls and walk away. I have little regard for people who can't do this.

Changing too much is also bad, because A) you can't maintain it, and B) it's a pretty poor relationship if you need to maintain that much distance and that many pretences.

Change is also different from growth and development. While growing as a person will cause you to change, it is a natural process of improvement on what is already there within you. Change is holding yourself in funny and uncomfortable shapes to try and fit in with someone.

Society is a bitch. Fit in enough to not have it mess with you and then quietly tell it to bugger off. If it pushes the envelope, assume defensive formation and beat it back.

How would you describe yourself compared to others?

I wouldn't

Actually I'd draw on how other people have described me, or how I've come to understand myself as matching with various categories I feel I belong to, such as Enneatype.

How would others describe you?

Silly, funny, charming, bright, witty, relaxing, comforting, stabilising, grounding, fun, "dualising" (lol), reflective, insightful, intelligent, quirky, weird, kind, loving.

Guarded, distant, reserved, defensive, disconnected, lazy, unmotivated, doesn't apply himself, coasting, weird (it's been used both ways), girly, emotional, too intense, manipulative.

[Skeptic]

Irrational, but that's as far as my confidence goes on this one.

You articulate yourself fairly well; I know an ISFp who, when asked questions like the ones above (that don't have to do with people), will kind of start and trail off (can't complete his thought, too complex/overwhelming for him) and will visualize his difficulties as though he is starting a bid for his listener to participate and add some integrity to what he is saying.

However, I'm sure you have given the questions more thought than in conversation/have deleted the parts that were poorly articulated (the luxuries of an internet post). You may just want to type what you think when asked those questions without actually 'thinking' about them, you know? Or perhaps you've already done that, in which case I might suggest a different type...

[Galen]

You know my answer to this question.

[mu4]

Still delta NF

[redbaron]

SEI or IEE

[Ave]

Do you have a penis or a vagina?

[Ave]

SEI or IEE

This is what I think also.

[Creepy-male]

Irrational, but that's as far as my confidence goes on this one.

You articulate yourself fairly well; I know an ISFp who, when asked questions like the ones above (that don't have to do with people), will kind of start and trail off (can't complete his thought, too complex/overwhelming for him) and will visualize his difficulties as though he is starting a bid for his listener to participate and add some integrity to what he is saying.

However, I'm sure you have given the questions more thought than in conversation/have deleted the parts that were poorly articulated (the luxuries of an internet post). You may just want to type what you think when asked those questions without actually 'thinking' about them, you know? Or perhaps you've already done that, in which case I might suggest a different type...

Yes. I tend to limit my writing on here to thoughts that I've actually thought about reasonably extensively beforehand. In actual conversation when I'm trying to grapple with my thoughts in real time, I'm much less well articulated, and often have to backup and redo my explanation or stumble around my thoughts. I rely on extensive gesturing to try and physically manipulate my thoughts and try to squeeze them out. Whether is is an ISFp thing or a consequence of needing to think about complex ideas in visual/spatial terms (where I later refine them into verbal form; often through imagined conversations with people where actual conversations cannot transpire).

I also have a high degree of verbal intelligence (according to the WAIS; I think my score was 130ish). It's quite possible that the SEI you're thinking of is not comparable to me in those terms, somewhat invalidating the comparison. I'm also much better at expressing myself through writing than through speaking, where I find it easier to communicate with things such as touch and gestures than through words.

The easiest sign that I've put a lot of thought into something and explained it to a bunch of people a bunch of times is that I'm able to--as you say--articulate myself well and speak lucidly and clearly. See if you can measure how much I've thought about the various paragraphs I've put into my beliefs/thoughts section.

Also please keep in mind that I'm not trying to convince anyone here of my SEI typing. I'm just providing my thoughts and opinion on the matter as discussion arises.

Also, please feel free to suggest a different type Let's see some discussin'.

You know my answer to this question.

No, I know your answer to "What do you think my type is". Which I also view as your opinion.

For the purposes of this exercises, let's take this thread as a collection of facts that you may construct a theory around. Let's see that conformity to the demands of objective reality, Mr Serious Type.

IOW, don't come in here with prejudices about my type. I'd like to hear your comments on the information I've provided.

Ne type or self-type. You sound awesome, either way. Yay for Gully!

aww thanks. That's two Ni bases and one Si base who like something about the things I say, lol. Maybe I'm some sort of freaky Se/Ne/Si base of doom, come to shatter everyone's belief in Socionics. Sort of like the Antichrist, only of Socionics.

Perhaps this is where DCNH is useful. Any of the DCNH-versed peeps, am I describing being a Creative type?

Do you have a penis or a vagina?

That depends

[Galen]

No, I know your answer to "What do you think my type is". Which I also view as your opinion.

Oh, I thought that's what the question was.

For the purposes of this exercises, let's take this thread as a collection of facts that you may construct a theory around. Let's see that conformity to the demands of objective reality, Mr Serious Type.

I'm on it skip *salutes*

IOW, don't come in here with prejudices about my type. I'd like to hear your comments on the information I've provided.

"Prejudice" seems like a weird word in this situation. Coming to conclusions based on prior observations of your person doesn't sound like a "prejudice" as much as it does a conclusion.

Genuine happiness is good too, but I don't bank on it, nor do I really trust it.

Actually before I get into heavy analysis of your OP, I want to know what you mean by this. How are you defining "genuine happiness," and what about it don't you trust?

[Creepy-male]

"Prejudice" seems like a weird word in this situation. Coming to conclusions based on prior observations of your person doesn't sound like a "prejudice" as much as it does a conclusion.

Sorry, "prejudice" was a poor choice of word. I meant to discard precisely what you've just described--a prior conclusion about my type. Of course if you're blessed with the ability to mould that conclusion truthfully based on fresh evidence, by all means...

Actually before I get into heavy analysis of your OP, I want to know what you mean by this. How are you defining "genuine happiness," and what about it don't you trust?

If "contentment" is a positive feeling of satisfaction, then I define happiness as a much more transient, much more elevated positive feeling. I don't consider contentment to be "not genuine happiness" though.

I don't trust it precisely because it's a transient elevated state. I tend to temper down "Happy" states by reminding myself "This too will pass", much like how I take the bite out of a low mood. When I do that, I find it tends to reinforce my positive state without a resulting decline as I "come down" again.

IOW acknowledging the transience of "happiness" while I'm experiencing it improves the positive elements of my general state of "contentment", which I view as preferable.

[Galen]

Sorry, "prejudice" was a poor choice of word. I meant to discard precisely what you've just described--a prior conclusion about my type. Of course if you're blessed with the ability to mould that conclusion truthfully based on fresh evidence, by all means...

Well I mean it's pretty difficult for me to ignore all prior evidence that I've come to acknowledge as true. But for the purpose of this exercise I'll see what happens.

If "contentment" is a positive feeling of satisfaction, then I define happiness as a much more transient, much more elevated positive feeling. I don't consider contentment to be "not genuine happiness" though.

I don't trust it precisely because it's a transient elevated state. I tend to temper down "Happy" states by reminding myself "This too will pass", much like how I take the bite out of a low mood. When I do that, I find it tends to reinforce my positive state without a resulting decline as I "come down" again.

IOW acknowledging the transience of "happiness" while I'm experiencing it improves the positive elements of my general state of "contentment", which I view as preferable.

Hmm, that's weird. I would figure that "genuine happiness" is something constant, like a source of happiness that doesn't run out (at least not easily).



Anywho, you talk a lot about your fondness for math and numbers and statistics etc. I'm sure lots of types enjoy numbers and stuff like that, but the fact that you state such a thing up-front would have me think some T ego. The part where your life simply "stopped sucking" one day makes no sense to me so I don't know what to make of it lol. You also seem to easily bring up a lot of sweeping opinions about the universe on a very grand scheme, which I guess would be more indicative of some N ego, perhaps Ne. You say that you tend to avoid "anti-fun people," which I guess on a surface level sounds Fe/Ti valuing to me, although that would be delving into stereotypes. You describing yourself as a "relaxing" person, but I'm kind of afraid to say anything about that because you want me to analyze you only based on the OP and not from what I've observed myself.

I agree with much of your moral standards, which tend to sound like they come from a normal, healthy human being than anything type-related. However, your focus on "consistency" in ideological beliefs would have me think Ti valuing. I've never particularly identified with the sentiment that "society is a bitch," or that an entire group of people are inherently bad; I'd like to think it's type-related, but I will reserve judgment. I'm not sure what you mean by "paradoxes don't work in three dimensions," could you explain what you mean by that? It seems important.

I guess overall alpha works, Ne and Ti seems pretty apparent. INTj would be weird considering as how you see people seeing you as "too intense" and "silly". That would leave ENTp.

Is this the sort of thing you're looking for?

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

I really like you. Probably because you 'own your nerdiness' when so many people are self-conscious/emo about theirs. You can just get umm kinda annoying sometimes but other than that I really do enjoy your positivity. You don't make people feel left out just because they like nerdy shit. I like that in people. (I just wish you were hotter. And gay. But God gives with one hand)

[redbaron]

I really like you. Probably because you 'own your nerdiness' when so many people are self-conscious/emo about theirs. You can just get umm kinda annoying sometimes but other than that I really do enjoy your positivity. You don't make people feel left out just because they like nerdy shit. I like that in people. (I just wish you were hotter. And gay. But God gives with one hand)

[Creepy-male]

I would suggest, Galen, if you're so sensitive, that it would not be in your best interests to continue to participate in this thread.

[Aiss]

Typing by the answers (as requested, but really because I missed all the typing battles including you), I'd guess IEE.

And math doesn't equal Ti-valuing. There are probably more Ti-egos in mathematics than there are Ti-PoLRs, but it's by no means deterministic. Delta NFs in particular aren't this uncommon.

[Creepy-male]

Cool Could you elaborate on that guess at all?

[squark]

Beliefs? General thoughts about w/e?

None of the other stuff means anything. This is the only section of any value, imo. It's a whole lot of Ne, without any Ti. IEE.

[Creepy-male]

Why do you say it's Ne?