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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    Interesting perspective, definitely different, got me thinking, but I'd guess most people would be utterly offended because the Holocaust seems so ugly.
    To me it doesn't seem ugly at all. Stalin killed more and no American is sensitive about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    To me it doesn't seem ugly at all. Stalin killed more and no American is sensitive about it.
    good point.

    also, only 6 million jews were killed during the war, versus 20 million russians. But you never hear someone about that fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    good point.

    also, only 6 million jews were killed during the war, versus 20 million russians. But you never hear someone about that fact.
    The circumstances in which the Jews were killed in the Holocaust and in which the bulk of the Russians were killed were somewhat different. And it's false to say that you never hear about the scale of the Russian casualties in the war, if by 'you', you mean me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    good point.

    also, only 6 million jews were killed during the war, versus 20 million russians. But you never hear someone about that fact.
    You mean it was a small amount or that the death poll should be far higher plus 20 million Russians never were murdered. Well, maybe they were according to your own view of history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    The circumstances in which the Jews were killed in the Holocaust and in which the bulk of the Russians were killed were somewhat different.
    Yes.

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    Ah yes, the russians were merely burned down in their houses after they got raped. And the jewes died quickly while inhaling a fast working gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Ah yes, the russians were merely burned down in their houses after they got raped.
    20 million Russians were burned alive in their houses ?

    Where do you get this info from. Haha. This is hilarious. A source would be greatly appreciated, because I've never read or heard such bullshit. Pass it over. Would like to laugh 'till I drop dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Ah yes, the russians were merely burned down in their houses after they got raped. And the jewes died quickly while inhaling a fast working gas.
    Nah Russians would just shoot people on the streets, make them starve or deport them to Syberia in trains made for animals. I've learned about both ****** and Stalin. Both were assholes but ****** sounds like an idealistic angel compared to Stalin. It's just that the world is ruled by Jews so we only hear how poor their brothers are to survive such disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    Nah Russians would just shoot people on the streets, make them starve or deport them to Syberia in trains made for animals.
    That means no other government/nation shot it's own people on the streets ? Yes or no. How did he starve them and shame they couldn't afford the 380A trains.

    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    I've learned about both ****** and Stalin. Both were assholes but ****** sounds like an idealistic angel compared to Stalin.
    What was so angel-like in that arsehole ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    That means no other government/nation shot it's own people on the streets ? Yes or no. How did he starve them and shame they couldn't afford the 380A trains.



    What was so angel-like in that arsehole ?
    Ok let's take the same Jews for example. Stalin said he will help them and when they would come to Russia he would send them straight into ******s arms. Stalin tried to destroy everything, any culture differences among nations. He wanted a new better nation(just like ******) where everybody is equal. He made churches to be used as car garages, he tried to get rid of religion to make people weaker and they would be more easily controlled. He tried to ban Lithuanian language and all the others that are different from Russian. That's why now every dumb American thinks Lithuanian is the same as Russian. And we all have to be thankful to Stalin for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Ah yes, the russians were merely burned down in their houses after they got raped. And the jewes died quickly while inhaling a fast working gas.
    The Russian army was incredibly poorly equipped, often not even having weapons or the very basic of uniforms needed for the conditions.

    Much of the general population was starved not necessarily as a direct consequence of the Nazis, but because of the incompetence or lack of concern of Stalin etc. Many civilians also got caught up in the conflict, rather than leave their homes.

    Also, being gassed was hardly the only means that Jews and other victims of the Holocaust were killed...and no, it wasn't always a quick death...and no, not really a pleasant one.

    "raping" and "burning" happened on both the German and the Soviet sides...while the Holocaust was a rather one-sided affair, involving the cold, systematic utilisatation and murder of many people. And I'm still puzzled at your puzzlement that the scale of Russian deaths in World War II is unknown.

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    Itīs called Holocaust Propaganda by the Jews. They were able to made the world just look at their own 2 million dead (it was impossible to kill 6 million Jews in 1942 because there were only 4 million Jews living in Europe at that time) as 6 million, tripling their own losses while making everyone forget the Soviets who died (around 20 million including non-Russians like Ucrainians, Lithuanians, and all the people who were incorporated into Soviet Union who were murdered).
    I can only hope that you are seriously misinformed.

    And why attempt to defend ******, at the expense of Stalin? It's not a bloody competition. For all you know, Stalin had some condition that made him pathologically paranoid. Maybe indeed ****** had his own illness. The important thing to learn is that it's not great to go round killing people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subterranean View Post
    I can only hope that you are seriously misinformed.
    No Iīm not. I think even the Jewish Enciclopaedia listed the total Jew population in Europe in 1940 as around 4 million. But if you search for other proofs that there were only 4 million Jews in Europa in 1940, you will find them, I can guarantee, from reliable sources. The 6 million figure is a total exaggeration, made partly by the Soviets, to demonize the Germans, their biggest enemies back then, and partly by the worldwide Jewish lobby who knew how to take advantage of this exaggeration.

    Soviets also invented other things such as 'ovens' and even the famous Auschwitz Gas Chambers which had to be relocated 4 times because serious researchers have proven that each of the 'chamber' could not, logically and mathematically speaking, have been used to kill people through Zyklon-B gas.
    The first chambers were collective showers. The Soviets made up the story of the gas chambers. I donīt think there was ever one single gas chamber. Prisioners were killed in a much more efficient manner, through simple starving as you can see in many pictures, or through shooting. One single rifle bullet could trespass several bodies. Even a pistol Luger 9mm has a bullet which can kill some 5 people with a decent shot if theyīre put in a line and then shot. Germans mostly killed people these ways.

    And why attempt to defend ******, at the expense of Stalin? It's not a bloody competition. For all you know, Stalin had some condition that made him pathologically paranoid. Maybe indeed ****** had his own illness. The important thing to learn is that it's not great to go round killing people.
    Yes, ****** had another illness, he was certainly mentally ill, perhaps he was sociopathic. He was also paranoid about the Jews having a secret plan to rule the world and destroy the white race. He saw himself as a great saviour against the plotters. Stalin was also mentally ill. This puts them in a similar level, of course. But at least ****** improved living conditions in Germany and seemed to love at least the Germans, who now so much despise him, even though ****** clearly lacked empathy for anyone or anything which was not German or Aryan, which is something pathological. And Iīm not saying it is good to go round killing people donīt distort my words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by None View Post
    ...blah blah nonsense...
    You seem to have serious issues and I hope we never meet. Even the most charitable conceivable explanation for your hugely distorted and obviously heavily invested view of history makes me feel queasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
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    What is up with your frenzied perversity? I'm sure there are many less twisted obsessions you could engage yourself with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    good point.

    also, only 6 million jews were killed during the war, versus 20 million russians. But you never hear someone about that fact.
    On a serious note, what are you trying to say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Words View Post
    On a serious note, what are you trying to say?
    on a serious note, I'm not saying that the jews were killed in a horrible way. I'm just saying that I noticed that every person knows the number of jews that were killed, but you never hear someone say something about the russians of which there died triple the amount. I find that remarkable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    on a serious note, I'm not saying that the jews were killed in a horrible way. I'm just saying that I noticed that every person knows the number of jews that were killed, but you never hear someone say something about the russians of which there died triple the amount. I find that remarkable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    I want to visit Holland. Let's meet?
    Oke see you soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    on a serious note, I'm not saying that the jews were killed in a horrible way. I'm just saying that I noticed that every person knows the number of jews that were killed, but you never hear someone say something about the russians of which there died triple the amount. I find that remarkable.
    Itīs called Holocaust Propaganda by the Jews. They were able to made the world just look at their own 2 million dead (it was impossible to kill 6 million Jews in 1942 because there were only 4 million Jews living in Europe at that time) as 6 million, tripling their own losses while making everyone forget the Soviets who died (around 20 million including non-Russians like Ucrainians, Lithuanians, and all the people who were incorporated into Soviet Union who were murdered).

    ****** was indeed bad and evil but an idealistic, while Stalin was only bad and evil and psychopathic to the core. At the very least, ****** did love his people the germans, while Stalin never cared about any life of his own people.

    Stalin and Communism were a far greater evil and monster than ****** and Nazism, but because of Jewish Propaganda, most people think Nazism was worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by None View Post
    Itīs called Holocaust Propaganda by the Jews. They were able to made the world just look at their own 2 million dead (it was impossible to kill 6 million Jews in 1942 because there were only 4 million Jews living in Europe at that time) as 6 million, tripling their own losses while making everyone forget the Soviets who died (around 20 million including non-Russians like Ucrainians, Lithuanians, and all the people who were incorporated into Soviet Union who were murdered).
    Wrong
    The original document that Adolf Eichmann used for the Wannsee Conference in 1942 listed the number of Jews per country in Europe; it rounds up to 11 million+
    Do some actual research on the holocaust instead of getting your information off of aryan nation BS sites
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    I heard that those 6 million Jews are alive and well, living under the crust of the Earth. Archaeologists seen and examined them but something was not right. According to some eyewitness, the name I won't betray, these archaeologists were sent from Venus in UFOs. Archaeologists only have been disguised as archaeologists, they were from outer space, aliens. I don't know what's going on with THE Jews right now. People speculate they disappeared after the Venus Delta Nazi Alien mafia discovered their lair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    To me it doesn't seem ugly at all. Stalin killed more and no American is sensitive about it.
    true, really to be completely honest, I don't know what other people would or would not think about such a thing... what do you personally think about it sarinana, do you agree or disagree with professor, is that your viewpoint also?
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