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    '****** was descended from Jews and Africans' DNA tests reveal | Mail Online

    NA tests reveal '****** was descended from the Jews and Africans he hated'

    By Allan Hall
    Last updated at 10:53 AM on 24th August 2010


    Revealing: The DNA tests on relatives of Nazi leader Adolf ****** show he was probably descended from Jewish people and North Africans

    Revealing: The DNA tests on relatives of Nazi leader Adolf ****** show he was probably descended from Jewish people and North Africans

    Adolf ****** is likely to have been descended from both Jews and Africans, according to DNA tests.

    Samples taken from relatives of the Nazi leader show that he is biologically linked to the 'sub-human' races he sought to exterminate.

    Journalist Jean-Paul Mulders and historian Marc Vermeeren used DNA to track down 39 of the Fuhrer's relatives earlier this year.

    They included an Austrian farmer revealed only as a cousin called Norbert H.

    A Belgian news magazine has reported that samples of saliva taken from these people strongly suggest ****** had antecedents he certainly would not have cared for.

    A chromosome called Haplopgroup E1b1b (Y-DNA) in their samples is rare in Germany and indeed Western Europe.

    'It is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, in Algeria, Libya and Tunisia as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews,' Mr Vermeeren said.

    'One can from this postulate that ****** was related to people whom he despised,' adds Mr Mulders in the magazine, Knack.

    Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.

    'This is a surprising result,' said Ronny Decorte, a genetic specialist who agreed that ****** probably did have some roots in North Africa.

    Roots: ******'s DNA was found to contain Haplogroup E1b1b, commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco
    ******'s DNA was found to contain Haplogroup E1b1b

    Roots: ******'s DNA was found to contain Haplogroup E1b1b, commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco (left) - and also accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of the Y-chromosomes of Sephardic Jews (right) who hail from Morocco, Spain and Portugal)

    'It is difficult to predict, what happens with this information, both to opponents and supporters of ******,' he added.

    The magazine says the DNA was tested under stringent laboratory conditions to obtain the results.

    It is not the first time that historians have suggested ****** had Jewish ancestry.

    His father, Alois, is thought to have been the illegitimate offspring of a maid called Maria Schickelgruber and a 19-year-old Jewish man called Frankenberger.

    This would have made the man who inspired the Holocaust one-quarter Jewish.
    Hidden secrets: The Waldviertel region where a ******'s cousin, farmer Norbert H, was found

    Hidden secrets: The Waldviertel region in Austria where ******'s cousin, farmer Norbert H, was found
    The Auschwitz-Birkenau camp where ******'s Jewish extermination programme was carried out

    The Auschwitz-Birkenau camp in Poland where ******'s extermination programme of the Jews was carried out
    The original DNA on the serviette in the US was from Alexander Stuart-Houston (now aged 61), a grand-nephew of ******

    DNA on a serviette was taken from Alexander Stuart-Houston (now aged 61), a grand-nephew of ******

    Reports have suggested that ******'s nephew, Patrick, tried to blackmail his uncle over the issue of Alois ******'s parentage. ****** asked his lawyer, Hans Frank, to investigate the claims and he announced just before the outbreak of the Second World War that they were 'without any foundation'.

    '****** would not have been pleased about this,' added Mr Decorte, of the Catholic University of Leuven.

    'The affair is fascinating if one compares it with the conception of the world of the Nazis, in which race and blood was central.

    '******'s concern over his descent was not unjustified. He was apparently not "pure" or "Ayran".'

    DNA was also taken from American Alexander Stuart-Houston, 61, a grand-nephew of ******.

    He was trailed for seven days before he dropped a used serviette which Mulders said led him to the cousin in Austria - and the link with ******'s sworn enemies

    Read more: '****** was descended from Jews and Africans' DNA tests reveal | Mail Online
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    Everyone is descendant from Africa anyway.


    EDIT: Watch racists try to spin this into an indictment against Jews. I.e. for killing their own people.

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    I had a neighbor who was a very intelligent professor. And so when I was little I often heard him saying: There was no genocide. Simply a jew called ****** with his Jewish friend Himler and some more Jews killed their Jewish brothers just to get rid of all the evil that lies in the Jewish nation.
    But he was a very committed Christian so he might have been subjective about the evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    I had a neighbor who was a very intelligent professor. And so when I was little I often heard him saying: There was no genocide. Simply a jew called ****** with his Jewish friend Himler and some more Jews killed their Jewish brothers just to get rid of all the evil that lies in the Jewish nation.
    But he was a very committed Christian so he might have been subjective about the evil.
    Interesting perspective, definitely different, got me thinking, but I'd guess most people would be utterly offended because the Holocaust seems so ugly.

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    I should have probably had a more serious title, but I did not want to pass up the opportunity to lolz @ nazis, if it indeed is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbean View Post
    I should have probably had a more serious title, but I did not want to pass up the opportunity to lolz @ nazis, if it indeed is true.
    yea I remember learning about this stuff in school 7/8th grade.... we had to do reports on the holocaust and I remember allegations coming forward that ****** was potentially jewish which to me seemed infinitely hypocritical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    Interesting perspective, definitely different, got me thinking, but I'd guess most people would be utterly offended because the Holocaust seems so ugly.
    To me it doesn't seem ugly at all. Stalin killed more and no American is sensitive about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    To me it doesn't seem ugly at all. Stalin killed more and no American is sensitive about it.
    good point.

    also, only 6 million jews were killed during the war, versus 20 million russians. But you never hear someone about that fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarinana View Post
    To me it doesn't seem ugly at all. Stalin killed more and no American is sensitive about it.
    true, really to be completely honest, I don't know what other people would or would not think about such a thing... what do you personally think about it sarinana, do you agree or disagree with professor, is that your viewpoint also?
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    So maybe it means the Jew can be re-habilitated, like ******.

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    ****** hated "the Jews" partly, or essentially, because he saw them as Christ-killers. Christ himself was Jewish...although you could argue he was born a Christian.

    ...although the Nazis did killed many people purely because they "looked Jewish", rather than because they actually were...and regardless of how ****** might try to defend these apparent results, he's still a bad person.

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    lol @ your mom
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    Airborne, I am worried about you.

    I once met some guy who told me that women who date outside their own nationality (not even race really, but actual country-of-origin) do so because they had a bad relationship with their own father. I was so shocked that there are people out there who still think this way, that I didn't even know what to say to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    Airborne, I am worried about you.

    I once met some guy who told me that women who date outside their own nationality (not even race really, but actual country-of-origin) do so because they had a bad relationship with their own father. I was so shocked that there are people out there who still think this way, that I didn't even know what to say to him.
    did I say anything similar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by None View Post
    did I say anything similar?
    no, the thread just reminded me of that.
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