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    Quote Originally Posted by warrior-librarian View Post
    Do you have descriptions for these different thought styles?
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    Actually, typing by Reinin dichotomies can often be extremely effective, given that they're highly exclusive (i.e. you only need to identify a small amount of them (5) in order to reduce your possible typings to one).

    Use quadra, temperament and club separately; don't mix them!

    Quadra triple:
    -Merry/Serious
    -Judicious/Decisive
    -Aristocrat/Democrat

    Temperament triple:
    -Rational/Irrational
    -Extratim/Introtim
    -Static/Dynamic

    Club triple:
    -Sensing/Intuitive
    -Thinking/Feeling
    -Aristocrat/Democrat
    I'd say the best results for typing by Reinin dichotomies would be obtained with an algorithm such as this:
    1) Pick 2 triples of your choice
    2) Pick one of the triples you chooses at 1); pick two dichotomies among the 3, then identify precisely which reinin dichotomies fits you for each component pertaining to given triple
    3) Pick the remaining triple and choose 2 reinin dichotomies.
    4) Identify precisely which reinin dichotomy fits you for each of the 2 choices at point 3).

    Only one type should remain. A useful "trick" is: don't try to "fit" every reinin dichotomy to whatever type you think you are: only a handful are necessary in order to exclude every other possibility.
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    I get correct results when I go through each of those descriptions and then use:

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    It allows to add values where you are not sure while going all out on dichotomies you are definately sure of.
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    Reinin Dichotomies are also really good for deciding on your subtype in the two subtype system, although I don't know if/how it can be used for DCNH.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ted-edits.html

    Look at your type and the two subtypes next to it. Your subtype contains the reinin dichotomies that stand out the most on that list.

    If you need explanations for the dichotomies go here: http://www.wikisocion.org/en/index.p...in_dichotomies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    Reinin Dichotomies are also really good for deciding on your subtype in the two subtype system, although I don't know if/how it can be used for DCNH.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ted-edits.html

    Look at your type and the two subtypes next to it. Your subtype contains the reinin dichotomies that stand out the most on that list.
    Could you explain how to use this so-called "easy-to-use" behaviour tracker? I never understood how it works...

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    Do you have descriptions for these different thought styles?
    What I view them as:
    Negative/Result/Static: people that try to be grounded and stable; to have all their bases covered and not let their success depend on contingencies; also people that seek compromises between different oppurtunities, trying to find the best way to combine these
    Positive/Process/Static: people that pursue breakthroughs with a lot of energy; people that shallowly detect problems and instantly throw their weight into solving these (in ISTjs' case, for example, decisive action is a way out of a stagnant practical situation)
    Positive/Result/Dynamic: people that get obsessed with oppurtunities the moment they pass by; a very opportunist way of thinking that snatches boons from the environment faster than any other
    Negative/Process/Dynamic: people that try to understand problems very well before tackling them; people that see difficulties easier than others and have the most indepth understanding of these

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    ^ It's worth noting that thinking styles from Gulenko's article Krig linked earlier are a bit different from the above. Not the least because they focus on how people actually think and not some traits that may or may not follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDo View Post
    Could you explain how to use this so-called "easy-to-use" behaviour tracker? I never understood how it works...
    The only part I'm using is the table at the beginning.
    * * * -Ne+ * * * * -Ti+ * * * * *-Se+ * * * * -Fi+
    infj * * * * INTJ * * * * ISTJ * * * * * ISFJ * * * * * INFJ
    * * * * * democracy * aristocracy * democracy * *aristocracy
    * * * * * result * * * *process * * * result * * * * *process
    * * * * * negativism * positivism * *negativism * *positivism
    * * * * * taciturn * * *narrative * * taciturn* * * * narrative
    * *Judiciousness * * * * * * * *Resoluteness
    * *Strategy * * * * * * * * * * Tactics
    * *Calculating * * * * * * * * *Carefree
    * *Childish* * * * * * * * * * *Aggressive
    * * * * * * * * *Cheerfulness* * * * * * * * *Gravity
    * * * * * * * * *Obstinacy* * * * * * * * * * Compliance
    * * * * * * * * *Emotion-creating* * * * * * *Construct-creating
    Ne-INTj's would associate more with Judiciousness, Strategy, Calculating and Childish.
    Ti-INTj's would associate more with Cheerfulness, Obstinacy, and Emotion-creating.
    So whatever stands out more for someone would be their subtype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    The only part I'm using is the table at the beginning.


    Ne-INTj's would associate more with Judiciousness, Strategy, Calculating and Childish.
    Ti-INTj's would associate more with Cheerfulness, Obstinacy, and Emotion-creating.
    So whatever stands out more for someone would be their subtype.
    you guys are misrepresenting triples -any two reinin traits implies a third, and they are usually called the small cycles

    Smilingeyes uses them to type a lot, they are useful for determining
    subtypes and I have found in my experience that he is quite correct

    result types are good at multitasking and making useful judgments (irrational when fully external or internal), they see the world in states
    process types are good at following through and making useful perceptions (rational when fully external or internal), they see the world as a progression

    thought styles stem directly from process and temperament (supervision style is a little more descriptive)

    static result types (negative) I tend to see as dense, they are good at organizing information
    dynamic result types (positive) I tend to see as messy, they are good at producing novelties
    static process types (positive) I tend to see as quackery, they are good at proposing theories
    dynamic process types (negative) I tend to see as robotic, they are good at detailing procedures

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post

    Ne-INTj's would associate more with Judiciousness, Strategy, Calculating and Childish.
    Childish isn't a reinin dichotomy.
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    There is a fifth triple that might be useful: The future

    Rational/Irrational
    Tactical/Strategic
    Carefree/Farsighted

    Irrational*Tactical*Carefree: No plans, no goals, no worries
    ...
    Rational*Strategic*Farsighted: many plans, many goals, many worries

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