Lustrous Definitive Grand Socionics Test

[Socionics Is A Cult]

Totally fallacious distinguisher for Fe/Fi. I easily chose the third over the others.

It seems overblown to say it was "totally fallacious". I don't think the interpersonal vs. intrapersonal distinguishment between Fe and Fi is incorrect, but of course these options are the Ego functions in their strongest terms. I don't think it's particularly problematic for an apparent EIE to choose the third option.

(As it happens, the last time I took the test, I chose the first option - applicable to primarily SLIs and ILIs, when perhaps I should have chosen the third option, applicable to primarily ILEs and SLEs).

Good temperament question.

That was derived from bullet-point desciptions by Gulenko - but I took out the descriptions of body movement I believe.

[Creepy-cinq]

The Observer (ILI)


74% ILI
74% SLI
59% LSE
56% LIE
53% EII
50% LII
47% IEE
47% IEI
47% SEI
41% ILE
41% SEE
41% ESI
38% LSI
35% SLE
32% ESE
29% EIE

I like this test. I have to admit though, the first page always looks promising. By the time I reach the 4th page, my eyes glaze over with reading too much text. I'll try doing the test in the morning when my mind is fresh. In any case, my results are relatively consistent with the first version, with a higher SLI score the exception.

[Socionics Is A Cult]

I need a SEI to recommend a better font + size. I'm not even completely sure what the font is...possibly Times New Roman. I just wanted to get the test done and not worry about such details, hoping it would inspire someone to make a much better test .

[Gilly]

It seems overblown to say it was "totally fallacious". I don't think the interpersonal vs. intrapersonal distinguishment between Fe and Fi is incorrect, but of course these options are the Ego functions in their strongest terms. I don't think it's particularly problematic for an apparent EIE to choose the third option.

(As it happens, the last time I took the test, I chose the first option - applicable to primarily SLIs and ILIs, when perhaps I should have chosen the third option, applicable to primarily ILEs and SLEs).

The problem is that Introverted Ethics is about much more than relationships and psychological distance, and Extroverted Ethics is about much more than emotional atmosphere, "having fun," etc. Personally I, and plenty of other Fe valuers I know, place a much higher premium on having close relationships and comfortable psychological distance with a select few, than "having a good time" or "being in a positive atmosphere." In fact I think the thing about being in a particular "atmosphere" is related mostly to Si.

I don't think anything about "internal dynamics of objects" or "internal statics of fields" suggests the kind of distinctions that are implied in either the test question or what seem to be your more generalized definitions of Fe and Fi.

[717495]

I think I've always been more attracted to IPs in real life, than EPs or EJs. So it could be telling in favor of EP too.

From an influence of your EP-ij behavior description, I sort of had some impression of the four subtype behaviors, and drew a little chart. Not really sure how accurate or understandable or useful it is, but I think I relate to the IJ sybtype one.

Just picture it in terms of having more or less energy, depending on the temperament. Shorter or straighter arrows for introverts. (think I may have made EP too long)

The problem is that Introverted Ethics is about much more than relationships and psychological distance, and Extroverted Ethics is about much more than emotional atmosphere, "having fun," etc.

I think at least "psychological distance" is one of a few good words for Fi.

[Gilly]

I think at least "psychological distance" is one of a few good words for Fi.

Well my problem is with people reducing Fi to purely the idea of "relationships," and Fe to the idea of "emotions," which causes a rather stigma-prone dichotomy.

[Socionics Is A Cult]

Well my problem is with people reducing Fi to purely the idea of "relationships," and Fe to the idea of "emotions," which causes a rather stigma-prone dichotomy.

I don't believe that the options do that. I think it does describe inter- and intrapersonal emotions and relationships.

[Gilly]

Could you elaborate on what you mean when using those terms?

[Socionics Is A Cult]

Some people might consider "feelings" as another way of describing emotions, and being in tune and influencing the emotional atmosphere could be a way of making and ensuring close relationships with others.

[HERO]

The Conqueror (SLE)
59% ILE, 44% LII, 38% SEI, 53% ESE, 85% SLE, 56% LSI, 47% IEI, 53% EIE, 47% SEE, 38% ESI, 32% ILI, 41% LIE, 32% IEE, 15% EII, 24% SLI and 41% LSE!