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    I watched a russian news show bit on youtube about socionics last night, where Prokofieva and this other guy were sort of summarizing socionics. I liked most of it. At one point they were giving little summaries of each type and how they manifest. Granted a little blurb like those will be grossly oversimplified, but I thought she did a great job with the alphas and betas, an ok job with the gammas, but a terrible job describing the deltas. I didn't think she did justice at all to IEE.

    She basically said "IEE is someone you want as a salesperson, to convince people to buy things. They are like the gypsies who are so perceptive of little aspects about people that most dont notice. Huxley was able to convince the world to accept Darwin's theory that humans originated from monkeys. Who knows if that's really true, but that belief remains to this day." first of all what a gross generalization of the roma. Secondly, IEEs are too up front to be that cunning. We are terrible with secrets! speaking for myself I would find sales to be a highly stressful ambiance, and totally against my nature. And I am really only convincing if i feel strongly about the cause myself.

    Anyway, makes me wonder what Prokofieva's type is. Obviously not delta, i'm thinking. Anyone know?
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    This interview?



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    No it was one where they were all sitting down. It was a 12-part thing on youtube (i hope this link shows up ok, my work computer has an old version of IE that doesn't support youtube well):

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    God I love the sharp sounds in Russian. All the "zzz" and "ts" and "sk"...sounds like cutting meat with a sword.
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    She self types as ILE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    God I love the sharp sounds in Russian. All the "zzz" and "ts" and "sk"...sounds like cutting meat with a sword.
    Yeah, it sounds cool and it's not even hard to read if you got the Cyrillic alphabet. But grammar is a real pain! Someone said the sound of Russian would be similar to German, well I don't know... I guess I can't judge this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plynex View Post
    Someone said the sound of Russian would be similar to German, well I don't know... I guess I can't judge this.
    There are more closer in sound, - Russian is one of Slavonic languages (outside of ex-USSR, the most close is Bulgarian).

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    "IEE is someone you want as a salesperson, to convince people to buy things. They are like the gypsies who are so perceptive of little aspects about people that most dont notice. Huxley was able to convince the world to accept Darwin's theory that humans originated from monkeys. Who knows if that's really true, but that belief remains to this day."
    That's true of the IEE I've met

    Tatyana is a P type...that's all I can see. She looks like an ILE
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    ILE makes a lot of sense considering her perspective on the types.

    And maritsa, we all know how you type
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    Wow, I'd be extremely offended, a type compared to gypsyes? That's rather horrible, esp. coming from an eastern european...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Wow, I'd be extremely offended, a type compared to gypsyes? That's rather horrible, esp. coming from an eastern european...
    I know, moreover she seemed to compare the type to the bad stereotypes of gypsies (even to call them gypsies is already derogatory--they call themselves roma). I AM really offended. She did not do justice to the essence of IEE at ALL. She was going on and on about the EIIs being such awesome psychologists, whereas IEE is the one called "psychologist"!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    She basically said "IEE is someone you want as a salesperson, to convince people to buy things. They are like the gypsies who are so perceptive of little aspects about people that most dont notice. Huxley was able to convince the world to accept Darwin's theory that humans originated from monkeys. Who knows if that's really true, but that belief remains to this day."
    Wow, Russians are terrible at socionics

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    Obviously not delta, i'm thinking. Anyone know?
    she thinks her is ENTP. maybe it is so

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    Anyway, makes me wonder what Prokofieva's type is. Obviously not delta, i'm thinking. Anyone know?
    Prokofieva types as ILE and supposedly her husband is her dual, SEI. They got married before she knew anything about socionics, and that was something that sparked her interest in it. She is good friends with Udalova, SLI, they raised their kids together, and began researching socionics together back in late 80s-early 90s when there was no available material about it. On their types: http://wikisocion.org/en/index.php?t...ory:Socionists

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    tatyannnaagjhhh reminds me of a nice junior high teacher who once got starry eyed by my handwriting
    she said that it was very mature for 13

    i was supposefly the best student of the class and the comment made me feel extra pressured to live up to best studebt thung uhuhuh next year it all changed because classes merged and i was not best student anymore but was thought of as the ex best student ;;;>>>>

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    She looks LII to me, tho can't exclude ILE (i was reading smth of her recently and having a hard time making sense of it, not to say that it makes no sense just that it seemed not easy to understand from my own lense)

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