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    What types do you know that are narcicists?

    I am quite confident that I know three of them.
    ESTJ-Te
    ISFJ-Se
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    edit: also an ENFP and ESTP-Se.

    Are some types more prone to narcicism then others?
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    Narcissism*

    Please correct your spelling or the writer in me will be compelled to do it for you.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Almost everybody is narcissistic, because society condones, supports, and rewards narcissism. It's in everybody's best interest to be narcissistic unfortunately.

    Narcissism will go away if people stop believing in it. I really do think narcissism is just a concept not some actual disorder. I just think it's a way of perceiving things, or to help explain somebody who is all about themselves. I mean you have people saying things like 'Oh healthy narcissism is good, a bit of narcissism is perfect.' I'm sorry but isn't that saying like 'You're a little pregnant?' It's like you are or you're not, but they say things like that because deep down they know that the narcissism criticism falls flat.

    Ultimately it's about choices, and doing the right things for no other reason then it's the right thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Ultimately it's about choices, and doing the right things for no other reason then it's the right thing to do.
    Oh my god, please, don't make me shoot you.

    What do those words mean to you?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BandD View Post
    Almost everybody is narcissistic, because society condones, supports, and rewards narcissism. It's in everybody's best interest to be narcissistic unfortunately.

    Narcissism will go away if people stop believing in it. I really do think narcissism is just a concept not some actual disorder. I just think it's a way of perceiving things, or to help explain somebody who is all about themselves. I mean you have people saying things like 'Oh healthy narcissism is good, a bit of narcissism is perfect.' I'm sorry but isn't that saying like 'You're a little pregnant?' It's like you are or you're not, but they say things like that because deep down they know that the narcissism criticism falls flat.

    Ultimately it's about choices, and doing the right things for no other reason then it's the right thing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    What types do you know that are narcicists?

    I am quite confident that I know three of them.
    ESTJ-Te
    ISFJ-Se
    ESFP-Fi

    Are some types more prone to narcicism then others?

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    lol truth, dude is so full of himself it hurts. I know that look when I see it; I get it every morning in the mirror.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
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    Under cerulean skies...

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    Seriously though, I kind of laugh whenever I see his face, especially a posed picture. It's a little embarrassing, I can't do it for too long. TBH though I think it's mostly related to being a 3; IMO Obama is EII-Fi, he's so much like my dad it's scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    anyway, definitely Beta NF's. Actually, I think that Beta as a whole may come off as a little narcissistic, in general.
    Then I'm mistyping at least some of them. I wouldn't say it's an obligatory trait, myself. (Not suggesting any Beta NFs present are less than narcissistic, of course not.)

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    ESFj's look narcissistic to INTp's because they value Fe over Se.
    Most conflicting relations well have that feel as well.
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    Maritsa what type am I

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    This thread makes my skin crawl.

    Which reminds me I have to write 2 short e-books on Narcissism. One about dealing with a narcissist and another about leading a healthy life as a narcissist lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    What types do you know that are narcicists?

    I am quite confident that I know three of them.
    ESTJ-Te
    ISFJ-Se
    ESFP-Fi

    edit: also an ENFP and ESTP-Se.

    Are some types more prone to narcicism then others?
    IME, yes, in terms of Socionics types there are some more prone to it than others.
    ESTJ, ESFJ, ENFJ ENTJ (all EJ temperaments, differently narcissistic, ESTJ and ENTJ tend to be more image-related narcissistic, ENFJ and ESFJ tend to be more of people liking them, have 'followers' to feed their egos.)

    ENTP, ESFP, ESTP are also prone to this, but here the main objective is to have positive feedback about themselves and feel 'superior' to others in some way, this can go either through body-image or through other types of behavior. Basically these types base their own self-esteem on how others esteem them, so they want to be esteemed by others otherwise they crack down. But this is true in possibility for every type, in today's society, hard to find someone who has unconditional self-esteem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airman View Post
    IME, yes, in terms of Socionics types there are some more prone to it than others.
    ESTJ, ESFJ, ENFJ ENTJ (all EJ temperaments, differently narcissistic, ESTJ and ENTJ tend to be more image-related narcissistic, ENFJ and ESFJ tend to be more of people liking them, have 'followers' to feed their egos.)

    ENTP, ESFP, ESTP are also prone to this, but here the main objective is to have positive feedback about themselves and feel 'superior' to others in some way, this can go either through body-image or through other types of behavior. Basically these types base their own self-esteem on how others esteem them, so they want to be esteemed by others otherwise they crack down. But this is true in possibility for every type, in today's society, hard to find someone who has unconditional self-esteem.
    By its very definition, isnt every narcissist image related?
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Although it's true that people bandy about the term "narcissism" (just like they do other terms that happen to describe clinical conditions), people can have unhealthy narcissism without meeting all the criteria for NPD. As for @sybille, if you actually work in a clinic, then I think you must know that it's irresponsible to toss out "diagnoses" on the internet, and I find it curious you'd use those labels as epithets to put someone down rather than to see them as purely diagnostic categories.

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    Good point.

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    Just did this test. Got this:

    You scored 12-15: Mild narcissism
    Scoring for Superiority: 3 - You scored particularly high in superiority, suggesting you feel you are superior to most others.
    I'll have to look more into this... You guys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkdhf qkb View Post
    Just did this test. Got this:



    I'll have to look more into this... You guys?
    Results of your Narcissistic Personality Quiz

    Between 12 and 15 is average. Celebrities often score closer to 18. Narcissists score over 20.
    Below you will find a brief interpretation of each of the seven component narcissism traits and what your score relative to that trait may indicate about you.

    0-11 No narcissism


    Scoring for Exhibitionism

    5 Exhibitionism


    You score particularly high in exhibitionism, suggesting you have a higher need than most to be the center of attention in any group or gathering.





    Is this actually high? I mean I might have a bit of that... but high.
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    I scored over 20, it didn't even specify a number it just gave me a link to info about NPD.

    I don't even know how I got this I thought I was being really humble.

    Bruh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nataraja View Post
    I scored over 20, it didn't even specify a number it just gave me a link to info about NPD.

    I don't even know how I got this I thought I was being really humble.

    Bruh...
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    score 22

    i insist upon getting the respect i deserve. how narcissistic of me.
    i lived my life being extremely ashamed so much that i can't do anything worthwhile because there'll be always people putting me down.
    i reinforced my own worth to be able to have my place in the world. how narcissistic of me
    i demand people do their part because they demand so much bs of me. they are the exploitative ones in turn i will demand what they took from me to be compensated for. how narcissistic of me.
    do you guys realize how many of the questions would check for ILI and IEI esp if they are not validated for their worth? what happens is i get put down, turns out u were right, they forget about it or dont comprehend what's happening at all. then i get frustrated with being shamed for being a better person.
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    0-11 No narcissism


    3 Vanity You scored particularly high in vanity, suggesting you have a strong belief in your own abilities and attractiveness.

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    I think it's most common for E3s if you want to relate it to type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sybille View Post
    I forgot to say this is the speech of a classic BPD with NPD traits, not mine . That's how my BPD-N acquaintance speaks to people she doesn't even know just because she's caught in the act of stroking her ego.
    Well since you decided to post my private message out of context to the subject and declare me a BPD it appears you are the one with some deep seated psychological issues. How is that for armchair psychology? Fuck off with your idiotic nonsense you know nothing about me. I have my diagnose and know my malfunction. This is exactly what my BPD friend did to me. She posted things out of context and tried to shape people's perception of me. You are so transparent.

    FTR, there is nothing in my pm that points to BPD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Well since you decided to post my private message out of context to the subject and declare me a BPD it appears you are the one with some deep seated psychological issues. How is that for armchair psychology? Fuck off with your idiotic nonsense you know nothing about me. I have my diagnose and know my malfunction. This is exactly what my BPD friend did to me. She posted things out of context and tried to shape people's perception of me. You are so transparent.
    Was it you? I don't even know who you are. I just posted some speeches to illustrate BPD and narcissism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sybille View Post
    Was it you? I don't even know who you are. I just posted some speeches to illustrate BPD and narcissism.
    Feigned ignorance... what are you keeping a file of private messages or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Feigned ignorance... what are you keeping a file of private messages or something?
    Ok you were offended. What's so bad about only dating younger guys and making a fairy tale of that? I checked and you posted something in a thread of mine. Then you bombarded me with crap I didn't ask for. You deleted it probably. I'm sorry, but you are clear Borderline Personality Disorder with Narcissism on top. I thought you knew that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sybille View Post
    Ok you were offended. What's so bad about dating younger guys and making a fairy tale of that? I checked and you posted something in a thread of mine. Then you bombarded me with crap I didn't ask for. You deleted it probably. I'm sorry, but you are clear Borderline Personality Disorder. I thought you knew that.
    Right, bombarded huh? I thought you didn't know who I was? Are you stalking? Did you keep track of my blogs too or something?

    I kept all the messages too so no worries I didn't delete anything. You are an idiotic troll, and I remember others mentioning this to me before, so yeah I can legit ignore you because you have no substance. I have an active inner world. I share it sometimes and people may think I am crazy but I am quite aware.

    I am in treatment and it is not for BPD. I don't believe for one second you are in the mental health profession but keep on trollin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sybille View Post
    Was it you? I don't even know who you are. I just posted some speeches to illustrate BPD and narcissism.
    it's not right to publically share someone's pm without their consent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suz View Post
    it's not right to publically share someone's pm without their consent.
    I didn't even know it was from a pm. Material I gather. I don't even know why she claims it, because I only talked to this user once or twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sybille View Post
    I didn't even know it was from a pm. Material I gather. I don't even know why she claims it, because I only talked to this user once or twice.
    gotta be more careful about that kind of thing then. It's like talking about someone in an elevator. Their families or friends might be in there hearing what you say and it ends up being a violation of privacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Well since you decided to post my private message out of context to the subject and declare me a BPD it appears you are the one with some deep seated psychological issues. How is that for armchair psychology? Fuck off with your idiotic nonsense you know nothing about me. I have my diagnose and know my malfunction. This is exactly what my BPD friend did to me. She posted things out of context and tried to shape people's perception of me. You are so transparent.

    FTR, there is nothing in my pm that points to BPD.
    I was gonna say sybille's long post seemed like it was inadvertantly in the wrong thread....
    (p.s. I "constructived" her 2nd one because it seemed to clarify my re her first post)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suz View Post
    I was gonna say sybille's long post seemed like it was inadvertantly in the wrong thread....
    (p.s. I "constructived" her 2nd one because it seemed to clarify my re her first post)
    no problem. I work in a clinic for mental health and I use any kind of material I get.

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