Ever seen House M.D.?Originally Posted by sarinana
Ever seen House M.D.?
ILI as least narcissistic? You must be joking.
We should have started with that there is a difference between arrogance and narcicism... people often confuse these two.
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One of my best friends' mom is narcissistic. Like in a clinical way. EVERYthing in life is turned around to be about her. She's LSE.
My husband's mom isn't quite that bad, but she has some of those tendencies. She's ESE or SEE.
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It's my experience that Te types tend most easily towards narcissism. If you examine Jung's definitin of Extraverted Thinking, this becomes rather apparent.
Last edited by Gilly; 08-24-2010 at 12:04 PM.
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We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I've read articles saying basically narcissism extends from normal to extreme. The normal narcissistic behaviour is basically as other people described, self-centered, egocentric, etc. That can include vanity, authoritarianism, entitlement, etc. A narcissist is anyone who appears vain and shallow. The same can be said for someone who acts self-righteous, pompous, attention seeking, vainglory, etc. Facebook is a good example of narcissistic-egocentric behaviour; people have a face fetish now, taking picture of themselves and posting them up for all their friends to see.
There is no link between instability and narcissism, even with the extreme narcissist, nothing I've ever heard. Psychologically, the narcissist has ceased maturing during infantile stages of self-love * please correct me if I'm wrong on that description. Basically they literally think they only exist or that their lives have a higher importance than everyone, in addition, if they want something then they take it. My nephew is two years old and if he wants something, he says "mine!" - a narcissistic attitude in a toddler is perfectly normal, but its ridiculous for a grown adult to have similar behaviour. If you meet someone who is inconsiderate, takes without asking, etc.
Another aspect of narcissitic behaviour is having extreme confidence. Of course the extreme confidence is a fascade to mask an extreme low self-confidence. In the same way a child can be sometimes terrified and frightened, feeling completely vulnerable and unable to protect itself, the narcissist has the same feeling. They have an inability to connect with people on a equal footing; they are either superior or inferior to everyone else.
The extreme behaviour extends to abusive behaviour with absolute disregard for the emotional impact they have on others. That can be much more wicked and unusual. If they thought it would be right to ridicule, backstab, lie, cheat, rape, murder, etc. on someone they would without any sense of the effect they have on the other person. Narcissism is often characterized as a complete lack of empathy.
Empathy is not entirely a matter of putting yourself in someone elses shoes, that is voyerism, empathy has to do with compassion. I read this book called the empathy gap. Here is something interesting: they say empathy needs a face to connect with. The book would describe why a president would be very empathetic toward children who were playing in front of the white house and yet would go inside and refuse in clear conscience on signing a policy that promote proper nurtrition for children in low income housing who were suffering. The difference is they can see the face of the children in front of the white house but to just imagine anoymous figures when making policy based on numbers and figures can be somewhat more difficult.
My opinion is its not that they don't have a conscience but its that they lack compassion. A narcissitic person can tell their lying and when you catch them, they'll feel bad for lying, but they don't consider the effect that has on the other person, i.e. hurt feelings, broken trust. They'll apologize because they feel bad but not because they've made you feel bad - its insulting and disrespectful to be lied to. The classic toddler behaviour is to forget about what they did wrong and do it again the next day, same for a narcissist.
I remember watching a court room case of a husband who testified to his wife likely being killed by a random act of violence. After testifying he leaves the court room and he stands in front of news cameras talking with the news reporters, laughing, checking his hair, combing his hair, and behaving very charmingly - charm is a give away for a narcissist - as it turned out he had killed his wife. When they confronted him, he showed absolutely no remorse and even denied the evidence. They explained his behaviour was due to a certain kind of narcissistic personality disorder, maybe sociopathic.
It hurts my feelings when people call me narcicistic.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
yes narcisists have a disability, they cannot put themselves in the shoes of others, therefor seeing others as an extension of their world instead of separate humans with their own world.
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The Rebel without a cause.
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