Do you accept me here or should I go back to the wise and stable Delta quadra? Or perhaps continue my search of da perfect quadra?
Now this is a serious question so no playing with my feelings!!!
Do you accept me here or should I go back to the wise and stable Delta quadra? Or perhaps continue my search of da perfect quadra?
Now this is a serious question so no playing with my feelings!!!
You just changed your avatar!
Major malfunction here!
You, I.. well, I dunno I dont think you're delta.. I think you're fun
I cant say! I say later!
is like a wet kiss on the cheek and a warm hug by a cute smiling girl.
is the confetti shots on your birthday party with all your friends.
is a way to completely rip apart the face of god and stare directly at the naked universe.
is like over here and then over there and they are all connected and I am on amphetamine.
Cant find an option to choose if you're beta though.. hmm
is like a wet kiss on the cheek and a warm hug by a cute smiling girl.
is the confetti shots on your birthday party with all your friends.
is a way to completely rip apart the face of god and stare directly at the naked universe.
is like over here and then over there and they are all connected and I am on amphetamine.
Hehe yes. I do that often I went back to one I have previously used. This is the one that has been liked the most so far. I'm a pleaser so...Originally Posted by Superman
I know I made the first option a bit too much Beta...hehe I should have added "possibly Beta" option too...so this poll will not show the real result And I'm sure many Delta's will come and vote for Delta so that I would go backOriginally Posted by Superman
I will vote for beta then sell you really expensive to the deltas!
is like a wet kiss on the cheek and a warm hug by a cute smiling girl.
is the confetti shots on your birthday party with all your friends.
is a way to completely rip apart the face of god and stare directly at the naked universe.
is like over here and then over there and they are all connected and I am on amphetamine.
XoX you are lovely and if would be awesome if you were Beta, but I'm quite sure you aren't. But feel free to visit any time! I'll even make you cookies - though I wouldn't eat them if I were you (I can turn pancakes into a catastrophe ). It's the thought that counts anyway.
The real question is...are you Beta?Originally Posted by Aleesha
But seriously, do you see me more likely as Delta/ISTp/ENFp or possibly Alpha/ISFp or something else? You didn't contribute in my typing thread so I would be interested to know?
Good point! But people have stopped replying to my type thread so I'll assume I am for the moment.Originally Posted by XoX
Delta. I think you're insane for thinking ENFjBut seriously, do you see me more likely as Delta/ISTp/ENFp or possibly Alpha/ISFp or something else? You didn't contribute in my typing thread so I would be interested to know?
Fcuk...you know I have done LOTS of research and analysis on and of the forum, alone and with other people...it is not as if I just decided to be ENFj But anyways, now all I need is Kraus and Transigent to mock my ENFj:ness and I reopen my typing thread I already have the feeling Rocky thinks Fe is more likely my PoLR than leading function and would never accept me in the same quadra, hehe.Originally Posted by Aleesha
Sometimes...life sucks But thanks for the opinion
stop worring and accept the fact that you are istp
Edited for gayness.
ENTp
Edited...
"Arnie is strong, rightfully angry and wants to kill somebody."
martin_g_karlsson
Well, I'm just trying to construct an argument and see if it holds the test of time (or something). But yes the approach is: choose a type, build an argument, start a discussion, after discussion decide whether the argument still stands or not. This can be done for maybe 6 types at the moment. But not to others. For example I can't build a case for ENTj.Originally Posted by Transigent
True. But I try to be honest when talking about my relations as I perceive them. And of course how I relate here to others have some meaning. But I'm working on this in real life too. You can almost call it a hobby Problem being I don't have too many friends interested in socionics (I try to involve couple of people and sometimes my wife but they are not interested enough to get really involved) so I can't know their types for sure (and I may perceive our relationship wrongly) which means I can't trust my real life interpretations 100%. I'm more likely to be discouraged one way or another by the possible interpretations of my real life observations if I do them alone which kind of sucks I guess I have to meet some socionist face to face or something to get to the bottom of this.Originally Posted by Transigent
But I'm positive. I'm making progress and I'm down to about 6 types for sure.
My typing history again...Originally Posted by CuriousSoul
First MBTI test when I didn't know what it was about: INTj. But I was working in an NT job at the moment, working hard and making steady progress so of course I was very J, very T, very N, and well I was quite absorbed into it and not interacting much with people in social sense just working so I-type of course. E-types socialize and sell stuff for living and I-types work hard behind closed doors, right?
My friend (who didn't know anything about types really) read the MBTI desciption of INTJ, said that is not quite me then read INTP and said I'm more likely INTP than INTJ.
At this point I was starting to doubt other parts too, especially the S/N part remembering that as a child I was much more into sports than books and was bored at school most of the time. So I changed to ISTP. And yes I wanted to be a police when kid and I had motorbike when younger and I like driving cars. And hey, of course I'm a risk taker!!!...um...I guess. Clearly ISTP
I didn't think about type much back then...then later found socionics and started the process again this time more seriously...first I took ISTp as socionics type (when I came here) because ISTp description seemed more me than ISTj. I didn't even check the others really. I guess I tried to behave in ISTpish way at first or something. After getting deeper into this I started doubting the E/I...then T/F....then S/N...then j/p...
Current feelings...more likely F than T. E and I quite even. j and p...can't say because socionics defines them differently from MBTI. In MBTI more likely P I guess. S and N...more likely N but not sure.
So xNFx is current impression which can change I doubt I'm any xNTx type or any Te dominant type. Who knows about the NT:ness though..I was NT when this whole process started after all
Forgot to say that this was a very nice and sweet and very F way to express the cold hard (slightly subjective) truth And I doubt your cookings are a catastrophe if you put as much <3 in them as you put in these posts Betas are lucky to have you around. If you decide to change quadras they will cry for days I'm sure (even ESTps )Originally Posted by Aleesha
Ok...it seems with all the recent analysis...I can only accept ENFj or INFp if no more data comes forward. Sorry Betas
haha you know i always thought you were such a player so it might be the x-ray thing between mirrors you know? and after reading this post..
http://the16types.info/forums/viewto...?p=74990#74990 you know all the probing sounds like some FeNi/NiFe thing to do? yeah i can buy ENFj but i remain doubtful.
Secondly it was a way to keep up the conversation in the thread and with Krauser. It would have been interesting to see whether she finds this kind of comment funny, neutral, boring or annoying. Would have helped to understand her better and adjust my behavior accordingly.Fithly it serves the purpose of bringing in light the ethical aspects related to these kinds of conversations and activity. In a forum and world so lacking ethics nowadays it is not a bad thing if someone reminds of them every now and then. If it happens in the form of jokes it is not as patronizing hopefully, hehe. In the loooong run it might even affect some people who read this forum, then their families then the whole world and -> WORLD PEACE. Or something.it does sound like the things i do.Well, that pretty much sums up the purpose of that particular post Smile There is humor, short and long term goals, socialicing, and whatnot involved
http://forum.socionix.com
I don't see what's so important about the possibility of extraterrestrial life. It's just more people to declare war on.
EVERYONE PLZ CONTINUE TO UPLOAD INFINITE AMOUNT OF PICS OF "CUTE" CATS AND PUPPIES. YOU KNOW WE GIVE A SHIT!!
I'm doubtful that an ENFj woud:
1- Mold in its environment
2- Be concerned about harmony in its surroudings
Both points are totally conflicting with the supposedly dramatic traits of an EIE personality; and are, instead, more charateristic of or . Therefore, I'd say that you have one out of the two aforementioned functions as your base function.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
They do have problems at first at merging into new places as I've observed. But once they decide they will stay or find any purpose/benefit they'll eventually try to merge to some extent or completely. Anyone remember how he was having a hard time merging while being in the chat? The stuborness and the criticizm and his habit of underlining the big differences of his lifestyle/ethics compared to the people on the channel? it's like he was searching for a reason to stay or trying to resist the merging, trying to find a reason for staying there?I'm doubtful that an ENFj woud:
1- Mold in its environment
2- Be concerned about harmony in its surroudings
They are concerned about the harmony in my experience. Even i've been criticized by an ENFj friend of mine for not keeping it/ruining it.
I can recall he was too concerned with some things and being almost dramatic about them as far as i can see it in an online communication. like worrying about the world/his country, worrying about people not being ethical? Hey XoX what do you think about these things ? =)Both points are totally conflicting with the supposedly dramatic traits of an EIE personality
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I don't see what's so important about the possibility of extraterrestrial life. It's just more people to declare war on.
EVERYONE PLZ CONTINUE TO UPLOAD INFINITE AMOUNT OF PICS OF "CUTE" CATS AND PUPPIES. YOU KNOW WE GIVE A SHIT!!
Well, it looks like you have more insights about thisThey do have problems at first at merging into new places as I've observed. But once they decide that they will stay or find any purpose/benefit they'll eventually try to merge to some extent or completely. Anyone remember how he was having a hard time merging while being in the chat? The stuborness and the criticizm and his habit of underlining the big differences of his lifestyle/ethics compared to the people on the channel? it's like he was searching for a reason to stay or trying to resist the merging, trying to find a reason for staying there?I'm doubtful that an ENFj woud:
1- Mold in its environment
2- Be concerned about harmony in its surroudings
They are concerned about the harmony in my experience. Even i've been criticized by an ENFj friend of mine for not keeping it/ruining it.
And I have experience only with an ENFj girl, but she has probably some mild for of some mental disorder, that's why she's not particularly interested in harmony
Yeah, yeah, I was probably ignoring infos. Also, there is the usual problem of perception, which would play an even higher role given the different intertype relationships.I can recall he was too concerned with some things and being almost dramatic about them as far as i can see it in an online communication. like worrying about the world/his country, worrying about people not being ethical? Hey XoX what do you think about these things ? =)
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Fe is concerned with how the external world is in accordance with interpersonal importance. As such, Fe in both the first and second function are definitely concerned with the harmony in its surroundings. What the person does with the harmony or lack of harmony may be a different story.Originally Posted by FDG
Fi is concerned with how external events accord with intrapersonal importance. As such, Fi in both the first and second function would be concerned with the harmony between external events and personal values. Again, what the person does with the perceived harmony or lack of harmony may be a different story.
XoX's posts primarily refer to interpersonal relationships. More so than anything else.
Even his approach to typing himself follows the interpersonal direction as He seems to prefer typing himself by how he interacts with people who know their types.
Regarding whether or not he belongs into Beta, while he may not have the ESTp or INFp attitude/factors....he clearly isn't an ESTp/INFp, however, he does have an Fe Beta-ish attitude. Which is a far cry from the Fi Delta-ish attitude.
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
very good post, thanks
http://forum.socionix.com
I don't see what's so important about the possibility of extraterrestrial life. It's just more people to declare war on.
EVERYONE PLZ CONTINUE TO UPLOAD INFINITE AMOUNT OF PICS OF "CUTE" CATS AND PUPPIES. YOU KNOW WE GIVE A SHIT!!
Yeah, after that I'll probably refrain from futher posts, you conviced me!
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
I have a good explanation for this now MBTI ISTP has TiSe as main functions. I remember when I used to think I might be TiSe (and even in this forum I have suspected SeTi). I think this situation is analogous to Joy and perhaps to Kristiina :wink:. For some reason in the past I have overused my "dual functions" making me think I'm TiSe. I was encouraged to do physical things by family and friends (sports etc) which made me hold on to those functions even more. Only after going to college I started to realise the real me i.e. the FeNi me.Originally Posted by CuriousSoul
There is of course a chance that I'm actually TiSe trying to act like FeNi _now_. I can't be 100% sure about that right now but people keep dismissing me being ISTj pretty strongly...Anyways because of my past my Ti and Se might be "overdeveloped" for an ENFj and my Fe and Ni "underdeveloped". Who knows.
In any case...
<333 Anndelise
<333
<3 to be FDG look-a-like. I wish I could extend that to physical world too :wink:
Kraus = pwned = bend that Se and accept the truth . Here is some <3333 for you to make the process less painful
Edit: and oh yes...Aleesha=pwned too. You may start baking the cookies now
*activity*
I cant feel anything!
Internet sucks.. lets all come to my place! come naked, bring beer!
(I'm getting paranoid about not doing useless post so I'll try to add something of value)
Hmm, hmmm. So hard
I just come up with questions that can be answered by searching :wink:
XoX, welcome! What kraus said is true, however there is hierchary.. I am the highest chicken here! You're our newest member, you'll be the picking hen! mouaahhhaah...
ghaa... lot's of value there, eh? Are you sure of ENFj? lots of people seem unsure about it..
is like a wet kiss on the cheek and a warm hug by a cute smiling girl.
is the confetti shots on your birthday party with all your friends.
is a way to completely rip apart the face of god and stare directly at the naked universe.
is like over here and then over there and they are all connected and I am on amphetamine.
Nah your posts are fine. This one made me think about my type.Originally Posted by Superman
Thanks To Krause too!Originally Posted by Superman
Great! I can be the rooster ! Metaphorically of course.Originally Posted by Superman
Nope I'm never sure Except that I'm Beta. I could be ENFj who once thought to be ISTj. Or I could be ISTj who now believes to be ENFj. The duality paradox. I made a thread about it in general discussion. People sometimes seem to confuse themselves as their duals.Originally Posted by Superman
So far my forum/chat personality has been way more ENFj to people than ISTj. No seems to think of me as ISTj so I guess I'm ENFj. I'm still thinking about it though (oops..not thinking..I meant feeling about it).
And I made a poll in Beta. Go vote for activity or mirror which ever is closer!
I only bake cookies for visitorsOriginally Posted by XoX
<- Me waiting for the cookies. Have mercy on me!Originally Posted by Aleesha
=)
=)
Ok. I think it is time to end my public type discussion. I still encourage those who haven't voted yet to vote in my poll(s). They are open for about 7-14 days depending on the poll. I'm still open for PM, IM and IRC discussions regarding my type but I try to cool down the public discussion (enough is enough and not much more progress can be made as stated by several people and I have no desire to become the official attention biatch around here).
It is true that in the end type can be verified only in real life and probably only in situations where there is lots of competition and "fighting for survival" (in a way) which makes you rely mostly on your strongest functions. In internet or during any "peaceful real life times" there is no such pressure and your less preferred/"weaker" functions may stick their ugly head up.
I wan't to thank everyone who participated. I won't name any names here but YOU probably know how much YOU contributed and I'm especially thankful to those who were there when I needed information and/or support and/or encouragement
I seriously hope I'm not But time will tell. Right now I'm too confused to answer. It is hard to jump from ISTp to ENFj and be 100% confident about your opinion If at any time you Beta members start to think I'm definately in the wrong crowd don't be afraid to say it. I don't want to live in an illusion for the rest of my lifeOriginally Posted by maizemedley
Thanks for welcoming me here And as far as the "test" goes...Originally Posted by maizemedley
a) <- yes, except I don't feel "obligation" to do it really I might just want to do it
b) <- yes, if my real life situation is such that catching the cold would not be too disastrous
c) <- might be the most common case
d) <- blah, no I don't want to relate that deeply. I want to forget the times when I was sick
e) <- interesting way to approach the situation, but no I doubt I would say that
f) <- I think it mostly depends on my own situation as in if there is a trip or work/school deadline approaching fast and I don't want to catch the cold...anyways I think I would treat all good and not so good friends rather equally.
g) <- If I'm really, really busy and stressed...then maybe...but not usually
i) <- nah
j) <- nah
So option c) is most common followed by a) and b) and rarely g)
Nobody can cook pancakes! They are a pain in the ass!Originally Posted by Aleesha
Hey betta. :wink:
Oh Krauss.Originally Posted by Kraus
Let's have some conflict.
-Is it OK that I take my laptop to the Sauna?
-No, I'd rather you didn't. It will only melt away, and I ain't gonna pay for a new one.
"Arnie is strong, rightfully angry and wants to kill somebody."
martin_g_karlsson
CS! Don't shoot my messenger!!! I will gladly pay for a new laptop in cases like this Hidden agenda ready....here it comes....Originally Posted by CuriousSoul
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
....... oh brother.Originally Posted by XoX
Topaz
The artifact which is the source of my power will not be kept on the Mountain of Despair beyond the River of Fire guarded by the Dragons of Eternity. It will be in my safe-deposit box. The same applies to the object which is my one weakness.
Yeah very cute!! The most cutestest!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3Originally Posted by Kraus
Hi Topaz Did you know visitors get cookies hereOriginally Posted by Topaz
Just break me off a piece of yoursOriginally Posted by XoX
Topaz
The artifact which is the source of my power will not be kept on the Mountain of Despair beyond the River of Fire guarded by the Dragons of Eternity. It will be in my safe-deposit box. The same applies to the object which is my one weakness.