What is Frank Sinatra's type?
I'm thinking SEE.
EDIT: Oops, I meant to put this in the Personas Famosas sub-forum... would a moderator move it, please?
What is Frank Sinatra's type?
I'm thinking SEE.
EDIT: Oops, I meant to put this in the Personas Famosas sub-forum... would a moderator move it, please?
Some quotes:
“The best revenge is massive success.”
“You gotta love livin', baby, 'cause dyin' is a pain in the ass.”
“Cock your hat - angles are attitudes.”
“Basically, I'm for anything that gets you through the night - be it prayer, tranquilizers or a bottle of Jack Daniels.”
“I'm not one of those complicated, mixed-up cats. I'm not looking for the secret to life.... I just go on from day to day, taking what comes.”
“I would like to be remembered as a man who had a wonderful time living life, a man who had good friends, fine family - and I don't think I could ask for anything more than that, actually.”
“Oh, I just wish someone would try to hurt you so I could kill them for you.”
“People often remark that I'm pretty lucky. Luck is only important in so far as getting the chance to sell yourself at the right moment. After that, you've got to have talent and know how to use it.”
“The thing that influenced me most was the way Tommy played his trombone. It was my idea to make my voice work in the same way as a trombone or violin-not sounding like them, but "playing" the voice like those instrumentalists.”
“Orange is the happiest color.”
“Dare to wear the foolish clown face.”
“I am a thing of beauty.”
I get the impression that he's some kind of SF. He's not focused on higher principles or abstract ideas or the big picture, indicating he's not likely Intuitive. And he certainly seems like more of a socialite than a Pragmatist. Possibly Alpha SF -- "Orange is the happiest color" seems like a classic case of applying Fe to Si, and he displays the general cheerful hedonism of many Alpha SFs.
So I guess I'll say SEI, because he seems more laid-back than an EJ type. But given that I haven't really done any research on him, I'm less than 50% confident of that.
Quaero Veritas.
SLE-Ti, IMO:
(^^^Receptive to Fe much?)
Sinatra is SLE type.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Wow, Maritsa gets one right.
Mia Farrow is INFj; he was married to her and got divorced remember...
They were only married for two years; I can see that, I would have strangled (just saying not really) him after two days...lol.
They should make them poster people for conflicting relations "Marrying your conflictor is a B"
Us activist INFj's what can we say...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mia_Farrow
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Apparently, Brando and Sinatra didn't get on at all though .. which may mean Something. Behind the Camera (11/16) Sinatra sounds Fi-ish to me.
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Especially with Se leading types...striving to possess the same objects (rather external then internal, whereas Fi is internal emotions-can't really possess emotions) and if the two like minds find one thing attractive, that can be very difficult to deal with because, resources are scarce.
Fi types might get upset over authenticity of information that they produce..."it was my idea" "No, it was mine"
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Yeah, either SEE or SLE. I don't have a real preference. Actually, I see a bit more SEE than SLE, but SLE is definitely a possibility.
“Oh, I just wish someone would try to hurt you so I could kill them for you.”
This in particular actually smacks more of SEE than SLE to me.
“The thing that influenced me most was the way Tommy played his trombone. It was my idea to make my voice work in the same way as a trombone or violin-not sounding like them, but "playing" the voice like those instrumentalists.”
But this has a slightly Ti vibe, so...
Not a rule, just a trend.
IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.
Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...
I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.
Yeah, but I got the impression that Sinatra came into it with feelings against Brando though they'd never met - and that Brando just came to dislike him for the way he acted. I think that having feelings towards someone you've never met would be an unusual thing for an Fi polr to manage. The thing about Brando being annoyed that Sinatra was trying to come across like the romantic lead because it wrecked the picture, and Sinatra not caring because he just wanted to come across well ... seems possibly SeTi against SeFi. I mean it's not logical to screw up the whole production just so you look good, because then you'd come across looking bad. :-p
How is that Ti?
"Language is the Rubicon that divides man from beast."
I dunno, it seems to be a very logical connection. It doesn't smack of how a Ti-polr might put it. I'm not saying it's a definitive or clear example, but it does vaguely seem like it would be more likely to be influenced by a Ti ego mindset than by a Ti superego mindset. Very much a one-to-one analogy. Not that Gammas and Deltas can't speak like that. But as I said, it seem more likely to be influenced by a Ti mindset than not.
Not a rule, just a trend.
IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.
Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...
I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.
I thought so.
SLE E7 so/sx (probably)
I'm supposed to have a Ph.D. on the subject of women. But the truth is I've flunked more often than not. I'm very fond of women; I admire them. But, like all men, I don't understand them.
I love all those girls the same as they love me. I get thousands of letters a week from girls who love me.... Every time I sing a song, I make love to them. I'm a boudoir singer.
Fear is the enemy of logic.
I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day.
The big lesson in life, baby, is never be scared of anyone or anything.
What formula? I never had one, so I couldn't say what the main ingredient is. I think everybody who's successful in this business has one common ingredient—the talent God gave us. The rest depends upon how it's used.
SLE