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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinocchio View Post
    Please tell me what doesn't make sense in my previous posts on the matter. Then you have the right to kick me out.

    Anything you won't address will denote an agreement or inability to debunk, including what I said about loyalty, reliability, Jack London and E 6w7. Thank you!
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    My INTj boyfriend is very reliable IF he remembers to do something. Often times, I'll ask him to get a prescription at the drugstore for me, pick me up from somewhere, etc. and he'll completely forget within 30 seconds. I've learned to write him little post-its and send e-mail reminders about stuff. He actually really wants to remember stuff and be reliable, but he has the absent-minded professor syndrome.

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    My INTj boyfriend is very reliable IF he remembers to do something. Often times, I'll ask him to get a prescription at the drugstore for me, pick me up from somewhere, etc. and he'll completely forget within 30 seconds. I've learned to write him little post-its and send e-mail reminders about stuff. He actually really wants to remember stuff and be reliable, but he has the absent-minded professor syndrome.
    That's the kind of thing that happens to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by April View Post
    My INTj boyfriend is very reliable IF he remembers to do something. Often times, I'll ask him to get a prescription at the drugstore for me, pick me up from somewhere, etc. and he'll completely forget within 30 seconds. I've learned to write him little post-its and send e-mail reminders about stuff. He actually really wants to remember stuff and be reliable, but he has the absent-minded professor syndrome.
    Ugh. I had this problem in my last relationship. My ex would often ask me to do something, or not to do something, and (justifiably) became upset when I would forget what she few seconds later. Her frustration toward me was a factor in why our relationship ended. Given that she was SEI and that people are oriented toward their duals, I wonder if ILEs would be more reliable in this way: it would seem counter-intuitive, though I’m not very sure how ILEs tend to act in relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Ugh. I had this problem in my last relationship. My ex would often ask me to do something, or not to do something, and (justifiably) became upset when I would forget what she few seconds later. Her frustration toward me was a factor in why our relationship ended. Given that she was SEI and that people are oriented toward their duals, I wonder if ILEs would be more reliable in this way: it would seem counter-intuitive, though I’m not very sure how ILEs tend to act in relationships.
    Continuing on the theme that LII's and LIE's do similar things for very different reasons, I also forget everything. An IEI that I work with just takes this as part of who I am, and she kids me about it every time she sees me.

    She (sarcastically): "You probably don't remember this, but....(you are an idiot)...."
    Me, thinking: "Huh. She's right. I actually don't remember that."

    On the other hand, my ESI duals remember everything. They seem to accept the fact that I don't and they are always ready to remind me about the true facts of the situation. I find this to be one of their more valuable traits.

    Never once has one of them reproached me for forgetting something. I tell them truthfully that I don't remember anything, and they just fill in the blanks. I'm guessing that they don't really see that part of me as being a problem, and/or they instead appreciate more the fact that I'm a public face for them, that I have clear and definite solutions (which they frequently modify by stating facts), and that I'm a forward thinker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Continuing on the theme that LII's and LIE's do similar things for very different reasons, I also forget everything. An IEI that I work with just takes this as part of who I am, and she kids me about it every time she sees me.
    The difference between LIE's and LII's is information growth. More specifically and definitely, it is the concavity of the velocity of information generated over information fed.

    So introverts are convex information processors and extraverts are concave information processors. And because there's no such thing in real life as a information processor that's both concave and convex, ambiverts don't exist.

    What does concave or convex information processor mean? It means this: if you feed an LII 20% of a textbook, he generates 10% of knowledge. If you feed him 200% of a textbook, he generates 20% of knowledge, and so on. This is why LII's think in generalities and why you can make them take 5000 tests that categorize them as LII and they still ask "umm what's my type again?"

    If you feed an LIE 20% of a textbook, he generates 50% of knowledge. If you feed him 30% of a textbook, he's already generated 500% of knowledge. They don't take personslity tests, because by the time they understand it they've already gamed it and start complaining that the test was too easy.
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    oh but to add another two cents, my dad is actually an INTj and when he says he will do something he 100 percent does it. Though, he is picky about what he says he'll do, but at least you know he'll do it for sure. So yes, some INTjs do learn to remember the details and are reliable.
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