Are LIIs-INTjs reliable people?

[electric sheep]

Would you (LII) consider yourself a reliable person? What does reliable mean to you?

[Crispy]

I MUST do anything I agree to do.
If I don't do what I MUST do I FAIL, and that's no good.
Consequently I don't agree to do much.

[Krig the Viking]

I MUST do anything I agree to do.
If I don't do what I MUST do I FAIL, and that's no good.
Consequently I don't agree to do much.

You've expressed my own views on the subject precisely and succinctly.

[krieger]

They're supposed to be. Myself, I tend not to be very reliable.

People who are not "reliable" and are less confident in their self typing are likely not to speak up out of fear of having their type doubted.

[Exodus]

Hehe, this is an interesting question. I have terrible self-discipline but I generally expect people (myself included) to not let anyone down if they can. If it's something for "the man" I couldn't give a shit ( sux) but if it's something for a friend that I said I would do I'll try my best to do it.
Not so much a I-will-always-do-what-you-expect but more a I-will-always-try-my-best.

On the other hand, irrationals suck at being reliable.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[Exodus]

electric sheep: I'm certain that this is your Dual-seeking. ESIs are either in or out, they don't dispute that anymore. But they choose people carefully, picked by hand.

As you can see, the LIIs say "if". You're looking for "no if" - that's not LII. And the fact that you don't even consider reciprocity is another clue.
ESEs are doers by themselves, they don't use to rely on others, especially in practical matters.

This is Fe, what you're looking for is Fi - commitments.

Hmm...

[electric sheep]

I have an ESE ex-colleague who keeps a barbershop with his wife and he's doing most of the things by himself - I don't know his wife's type, but he never complained about her but some dishonest employees. When he has problems, he just calls around and finds out who can help & stuff, he doesn't have "reliable" people - and actually no ESE I know, but they have a lot of friends who do favors to them and back.

This is Fe, what you're looking for is Fi - commitments.

How do you know what I'm looking for? Are you trolling again? How do you know I don't fit what you just described? How do you know your colleague never complains about unreliable people? Can no one speak candidly without having their type questioned by you? No one is a cookie cutter representative of their type.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[electric sheep]

I was thinking, they may act very much like me, which is yes they would be very reliable, when they can get to doing whatever they promised to do; but, that they are not inflicted with guilt as we are.

oh and they don't try to guilt trip people. That's how LIIs are different from EIIs.

I MUST do anything I agree to do.
If I don't do what I MUST do I FAIL, and that's no good.
Consequently I don't agree to do much.

I try not to give people an opportunity to let me down, if that makes any sense. Once I'm disappointed, it's hard to shake my perception of someone as unreliable.

[Creepy-Pied Piper]

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[krieger]

How do you do that? Remind them of the issues or simply never (or very rarely) do you assign tasks to people, fearing they'd let you down?

I assume people are unreliable. It's the only sensible thing to do.

Another question is: what about you, do you let people down or fulfill what is assigned to you diligently?

I forget about some detail of the assignment, or end up committing to it in a half-assed way because something more important turned up.

[Krig the Viking]

I assume people are unreliable. It's the only sensible thing to do.

Agreed.

[Misfit]

I assume people are unreliable. It's the only sensible thing to do.



I forget about some detail of the assignment, or end up committing to it in a half-assed way because something more important turned up.

same here. i can never trust anyone because i am always on high alert, picking out what doesn't fit, which other people don't notice. for instance, it doesn't occur to many people now that I've been in college a while and I've known immigrant friends who came with their parents to apply BEFORE the deadline, and even my own family makes similar mistakes, so I just do it myself, but yet when others expect things of me I can't understand why it's so important, especially being on the spectrum, and I just fail on purpose.

[electric sheep]

please don't hijack my thread maritsa

[The Exception]

Would you (LII) consider yourself a reliable person? What does reliable mean to you?

I consider myself to be very reliable. If I say I'm going to do something, I try to do it if at all possible and if I don't do it, there had better be a very good reason. For me, alot of it ties in with the Fi role function. Keeping my promises to others and not letting others down.

[Froody Blue Gem]

I keep my promises, and am very committed once I put my mind to something. People note that I go above and beyond when it comes to school work, my job, or projects in general. If you throw me into a situation relating to real-world workforce related stuff I never dabbled in, I'll probably let you down. There's a lot in life that doesn't come naturally to me, so I need to learn how to do something in order to follow through with it. When it comes to relationships, both romantic and friendships, I consider myself reliable too. Though I am slow when it comes to communications.

I do put my best foot forward, even if the area is not my forte/area of expertise.

[Ryan]

I keep my promises, and am very committed once I put my mind to something. People note that I go above and beyond when it comes to school work, my job, or projects in general. If you throw me into a situation relating to real-world workforce related stuff I never dabbled in, I'll probably let you down. There's a lot in life that doesn't come naturally to me, so I need to learn how to do something in order to follow through with it. When it comes to relationships, both romantic and friendships, I consider myself reliable too. Though I am slow when it comes to communications.

I do put my best foot forward, even if the area is not my forte/area of expertise.

You keep replying to LII threads but it says your type is EII in your profile, so what is your type?

[Froody Blue Gem]

You keep replying to LII threads but it says your type is EII in your profile, so what is your type?

I identify as a solid xII/ne type, but fi and Delta are overall more accurate for me I believe. It's interesting to look at posts from a slightly different perspective, and not to be confined to one section and posts pertaining to one type, and I can relate to aspects relating to LII, even if EII fits the bill more.

[rtht]

The kind of reliability that I would expect from LII is in what they say...... like I would expect them to be fair, and unbias.... and maybe a bit harsh sometimes..... but I'd rather harsh than unfair/bias

[MissDucki]

I would say so. I find more rational types tend to be more steady and reliable. I would trust an INTj over an ENTp more over most things personally. That take it a bit more seriously IMO.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

my LII daddy was very reliable... and also loyal. 1D Fe made him super stern and serious many times though. if they are not in a proper Fe envrionment, the 1D Fe in LII can seem so savage. =D

[FreelancePoliceman]

my LII daddy was very reliable... and also loyal. 1D Fe made him super stern and serious many times though. if they are not in a proper Fe envrionment, the 1D Fe in LII can seem so savage. =D

Savage? How do you mean?

[idealteal]

Reliable if it's in the "important" category in my mind. If it's in the "trivial" category I'll forget about it. Unfortunately, most things are in the "trivial" category.

[Rebelondeck]

It can be difficult for someone to convince me to do something because in order for me to agree, I must be sure that I can pull it off perfectly. I have a very good memory but I have very selective input so generally if I "forgot" something, it likely means that I really did not acquire the information when it was imparted. I can be looking straight at someone with my senses completely shut off. I have not met a LII who didn't deliver what he promised although I've known a few who wouldn't promise.

a.k.a. I/O

[myresearch]

It can be difficult for someone to convince me to do something because in order for me to agree, I must be sure that I can pull it off perfectly. I have a very good memory but I have very selective input so generally if I "forgot" something, it likely means that I really did not acquire the information when it was imparted. I can be looking straight at someone with my senses completely shut off. I have not met a LII who didn't deliver what he promised although I've known a few who wouldn't promise.

a.k.a. I/O

At work, do you say you cannot do something?

I noticed, I generally think that I can find a way, hence I say that I can do it, eventhough I haven't done such a thing before.

However, in my lifetime, I always kept my promises and if I know that I cannot deliver something, I don't promise. It is just that I think I can do stuff at work, I thought that was Ne kind of arrogance. When people say they cannot do something, I think they are giving execuses. I may say I cannot make it done to X deadline or I cannot do it in a certain way though or if it cannot be done due to other external conditions, I can explain those.

[Rebelondeck]

At work, do you say you cannot do something?......

Much in my line of work is a negotiation. If I can't deliver, I will say so, and I'll say why - that leads to negotiation. Sometimes I have to undertake risky things with the executive/clients expecting only best effort as an outcome but I don't usually do that in my private life.

a.k.a. I/O