Originally Posted by
Pinocchio
@Timeless: I don't know what's your purpose with that, but it seems that you have no understanding in the functions and the types - why do you avoid to address them so much? You took a defensive position which was not necessary, because that stuff you wrote is completely irrelevant to what we were talking about - namely your type.
The questions I asked you were for yourself, I know your exact type. You put the problem that why you are not an ILE as of I tell you that you don't have enough /money/mana/karma to be an ILE, that's not the problem, but you're an LIE instead. Oh, Ni association with "lie"? No problem: ENTj. You're asking me a lot of irrelevant questions like "should we have identical cores?" or something, for what point? Did I tell you that the only reason for which you're not an ILE is the fact that me and you are not completely similar? No, I pointed things out to you along the time that demonstrate not only that you're not ILE, but why you're an LIE, independently of me or any actual person - although this is not something to be excluded - again, that evidence you talk about yourself.
You said previously that you draw a bottom line and see how much/many evidence/sources drags you towards a certain conclusion, but those things are only the illusory ones that could confirm you the so-much-valued type you want to be, the rest are just details? You take each thing that differentiates you from an ILE as a "little difference", separately, "cause people can't be exactly identical", but at the end of the day these differences accumulated and these "little differences" compose all your typing. So how do you gather this amount of "evidence" since every little thing that doesn't match your opinion you dismiss as a "little difference"?
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And BTW, did BlackCat brought you here? Did you know that me and him previously agreed on his type as being an ESI, he was angry on people who didn't acknowledge that, but something made him change his mind later. That's not important, what's important is that this (my typings in you both and the fact that you guys now take LIE as ILE and ESI as SEI) would demonstrate you that my typings are consistent and it's not just a coincidence. This is also consistent with the ESI traits you described to be what you are looking for in a woman, in Kama's thread, which I pointed you out there.
I'll use some Ne here, maybe you guys will be pissed on me for profiting off history, but in my opinion it is you who changed BlackCat's opinion, establishing that you're an ILE and he's an SEI, am I correct? You're his Dual in the end, so no matter how adamant one is previously, his/her Logical Dual can make him/her think again.
I realized this after I typed both of you, than I realized what he told me previously about an ILE guy he is getting along very well with, while he used to be pissed off by the other ILEs. I don't know how much he would allow me to reveal from our private discussions, ESIs value confidence immensely, I don't want to offend him.
Besides the Fi DS confirmation - that means that Fi types would most like enjoy the idea and Fe ones would send you *somewhere*, this is not even correct when it comes to Socionics. It's not up to the person to choose his/her type, the type is inherent in the human psyche, it's up to the person to understand and acknowledge that, only. That's the only think one can do about this.
No, ILE/ENTp force - and stuff, and things from your videos. The ILE stereotype is that it's the smartest guy in the room, with the most crazy ideas, but this stereotypes overlooks the true criteria. There are a lot of smart people in all types, why would you unreasonably stick to this one out of the void? Other types are not dumb at all, especially LIE.
So how comes that all our evidence from your posts points otherwise? You're again working against any Ti in the world: Ti is about correctness, when things contradict, something doesn't make sense definitely. If something doesn't make sense, then it might be all wrong.
This is why your Logic is called also "business logic", because is uses statistical graphs inside, what side "wins", what are the odds, which side has the most chances of being correct. Te types accumulate a lot of information and make the sum of each party supporters. One of the things you probably have done when typing yourself was to read all the descriptions, find out which one contains the most adjectives you though that describe you then made the comparison.
What we're doing now is pure Ti vs Te, while you're trying to show how many sources support your position, I'm trying to demonstrate you which of these assumptions are incorrect. This discussion alone demonstrates that we're on opposite sides of valued (Socionics) Logic! Do you so much like to live in delusion, to let the illusion of "supporting evidence" keep you mistyped?
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I have an idea: send PMs with your videos to Alpha then Gamma types here on the forum and find out their reactions, just take care to ask them to be sincere, people answer politely usually. What d you think?
Krig, I'm convinced what you're made of already, you're just holding a political battle here... what's this "classic ILE speech" you're talking about, may I take a look on something like that to be able to compare it to what Timeless have said?