People who shove their opinions down your throat

[Aiss]

Based on that little snippet, sounds like I'd be turned off be ESE behavior, yet they are supposed to be my duals. Assuming I got my self-typing right of course.

These things are only partly type-related, I think. Do 1/16 of people act like this?

I also thought ESE at first, especially because of "need to broadcast" and "if I like it, it's good and you should like it as well" attitude, but they're usually not as forceful as you make her be (could be Se-PoLR speaking, I don't know), and not with strangers. That woman could be ESE, SEE or some other type for all I know. No type has monopoly on acting like this, really.

Also, this snippet about ESE sounds true and it works rather well with LIIs poor awareness of their likes/dislikes, in my observation.

[Beautiful sky]

These things are only partly type-related, I think. Do 1/16 of people act like this?

I also thought ESE at first, especially because of "need to broadcast" and "if I like it, it's good and you should like it as well" attitude, but they're usually not as forceful as you make her be (could be Se-PoLR speaking, I don't know), and not with strangers. That woman could be ESE, SEE or some other type for all I know. No type has monopoly on acting like this, really.

Also, this snippet about ESE sounds true and it works rather well with LIIs poor awareness of their likes/dislikes, in my observation.

Certain types do have monopoly on actions, that's why I think once we figure it out, we, socionics psychologists can revolutionize helping people by encouraging them to refrain from certain actions based on their type....see where I am headed dear?

Force is not Se. Force is not Se. Force is not Se....someone should write that in stone somewhere. Maybe it's not force but idealism that is perceived to be forceful and driving in nature.

[Brilliand]

someone should write that in stone somewhere.

Counterintuitively, things written in stone tend to remain unknown to the majority of the population.

[Beautiful sky]

Counterintuitively, things written in stone tend to remain unknown to the majority of the population.

Extraverted sensing is also called Volitional Sensing, or Space-capturing Sensing.

This sensing function directs to occupation of space. People with this strong function are usually demanding people, which like when other people fulfill their wishes and demands. Not so much demanding as can get attention of individuals who they can get to act on something or requests. They often (but not always) have athletic, somewhat roundish figure, quick and demanding eyes. They are very persistent in the life: "If I want, then it should be achieved” [this is in the case of very healthy Se], and they often gladly help other people – those who accept their leadership. Their outbursts of anger may fear some people, but in fact they are short-term [this is a relative phrase that may or may not apply and situational as anger is true for all people] – in several minutes they become calm again and restore their good mood.

SEE are generally very good natured people.
SLE, may be more stern.

[Creepy-Cyclops]

Extraverted sensing is also called Volitional Sensing, or Space-capturing Sensing.

This sensing function directs to occupation of space. People with this strong function are usually demanding people, which like when other people fulfill their wishes and demands. Not so much demanding as can get attention of individuals who they can get to act on something or requests. They often (but not always) have athletic, somewhat roundish figure, quick and demanding eyes. They are very persistent in the life: "If I want, then it should be achieved” [this is in the case of very healthy Se], and they often gladly help other people – those who accept their leadership. Their outbursts of anger may fear some people, but in fact they are short-term – in several minutes they become calm again and restore their good mood.

Generally very good natured people.

I'm not convinced it's right to be quite as selective as this for the types, it can lead to confusion when bolding certain parts like you're last bolded part (i'm assuming you are bolding it due to you thinking it being very significant part).

EG:

ESTps are very slow to anger. And when they do become angered it is very difficult for them to calm down.

and, for sake of it:

You are often unable to control your emotions in full. You can easily loose your temper with friends and relatives if they do not follow your instructions and tuition or if someone's behaviour goes against your logic and understanding.

Which also maybe could be confused somewhat with what you are saying.

I suppose what i'm saying is that take it as it's whole, when you look at tiny bits, it seems it's easy to get muddled on which type does which, also to mention some people have more volatile personalities than others of the same psycho-type.

It's one of the things in my observation which can lead to poor typing.

ie, to use these descriptions to best of their capability, need to take it all into account, not really individual sentences etc.

[Beautiful sky]

I'm not convinced it's right to be quite as selective as this for the types, it can lead to confusion when bolding certain parts like you're last bolded part (i'm assuming you are bolding it due to you thinking it being very significant part).

True, I just copied and pasted that when it had the bolding, I will go back and edit.

Thank you.

[Aiss]

Force is not Se. Force is not Se. Force is not Se....someone should write that in stone somewhere. Maybe it's not force but idealism that is perceived to be forceful and driving in nature.

I mentioned forced in reference to Se-PoLR. Which is oversensitive to anything it perceives as display of force against it, or so socionics sources tell me.

[Beautiful sky]

I mentioned forced in reference to Se-PoLR. Which is oversensitive to anything it perceives as display of force against it, or so socionics sources tell me.

Yes...somewhat true, but because of the person's values and ideals it rules EII out because the person believe in inharent bad ness of people which EII does not because EII is generally very positive, optimistic, and hopeful person.

This person is a consistant actor of certain behaviors. If they were Se PoLR the act/behavior would be very short lived.

[Beautiful sky]

I mentioned forced in reference to Se-PoLR. Which is oversensitive to anything it perceives as display of force against it, or so socionics sources tell me.

Se, in the modern context of the word, should be "GETTING" not force. Se PoLR is not being able to get or encourage people to follow a suggestion or demand. That might be perceived as pushing and other odd behavior (when the person tries to but sees that they are being unsuccessful), kind like what I do, persistance.