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ENTp
INTp
INTj
ISTp
INFj
ENFp
Other (please explain)
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Last edited by cinq; 10-08-2010 at 12:07 AM.
I agree with Pinnocchio on INTp
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Why? Explain with your knowledge. Also, you've claimed your mom to be INTp - what are the comparisons.
Edit: I'll qualify this to say I'm not trying to be antagonistic. If you have a storehouse of knowledge and you've made many claims of this, this is your opportunity to showcase what you know, and you have your experience with your Mother to draw from. I'll be open to what you provide (but be prepared I may not agree).
Your values align with my mom's for education, compitence. She and her friend who are also INTp push their kids to succeed and are always woried about their success and what things they are accomplishing in school. Both have conservative values are not very material, especially extravegant with personal style such as manicures and peticures.
But I believe those things are also the same for ISTp as well.
With Ni you have to ask yourself how important is time and do you keep a strigent eye on it not only for yourself but for others? As in, does it upset you with others don't care about time?
With Si you have to ask yourself
"SEIs have a strong connection to and ability to recognize internal physical states in themselves and others. They understand how these states are reached and are able to easily recreate or avoid them if desired. They are innately drawn to situations that satisfy their inner physical needs and experience. They are usually skilled at the art of recreation, enjoyment, and positive aesthetic experience.
SEIs often feel that they are in a rush, both mentally and physically. Therefore, they can sometimes feel like they need to get everything done at once (which can be explained by the SEIs base and role functions). When an SEI starts a personal project, they often have the tendency to try to get concrete results in the shortest amount of time, which can lead to rushing and carelessness. This could lead to the SEI becoming stressed and overworked.
Often unable to express their feelings well using words, the SEI will instead create "art" (artwork, food, writing, or any other aesthetic situations) to illustrate the comfort or discomfort that they are experiencing internally.
SEIs try to make their living space comforting and appealing to the senses and strive to improve the lives of those they are close to."
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I'm sorry to have mislead you here. I'm not really looking for advice because I'm lost and don't know my type. I'm more interested in a break down analysis - how members interpret various parts of the information I've provided. Simple hunches are sufficient too. But, for those who feel they are knowledgeable, if they are going to make a claim, it would be nice if they explained how and why they chose a certain type.
Thanks for the effort Maritsa.
You're welcome.
I noticed that you like art/photography, that would point to S types and you are very detailed and specific in your explainations. Pointing to some of the basics of Socionics, that would indicate S type.
You are kind and respectful, but rather hasety to make judgements sometimes and overlook important details based on vilation of your values...if you perceive people to have violated values...especially ones that go against humanly treatment of others.
Yet with theories you want solid proof; that's not very N like; N's love theory, even wild ones. Or, will at least pay attention to and openly recieve possibilities.
Although you seek out information and knowledge somehow you are open to more...Ne is rather such that new information is needed all the time, a constant stream in order for this function to survive as one at all. But Ne could be your activating function, that means you value it and seek it more so then others when it is activated. I don't see Ne in your ego block because then you would either have a dominent other function like Ti or Fi then use Ne for general picture building or have Ne as a constant stream where new, constant new is required. Hence, you do not make any mention of you needing new situations or linking any possible things together.
So my analysis, because I have Ti in my third spot, also acts to eliminate types for you much like how INTj would proceed to do so by eliminating contridictions on systems or type.
So far, you are not INFj or INTj, ENTp or ENFp.
And because I am both brain oriented I also look at statistics as well...
So far, by elimination of most N types. I would rule in S types, mostly because of your perceptive hobby or photography.
You seem somewhat not focus/work oriented and lazy? (no hard feelings please), because you don't submit your best work...that's more like ISTp. Mariella, would you not agree with this somewhat?
Last edited by Beautiful sky; 04-16-2010 at 10:45 PM.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
my first guess would be INTP. But I'm not really certain.
You do seem to potentially have an Fe PoLR. You talk about intuition, and research, and that kind of thing a lot, plus you routinely test with N over S, right, so I'd kind of think probably ILI>SLI. The interest in photography could maybe point to SLI>ILI, but lots of people of various types are into photography and I don't think that's the strongest thing to type by. I think the overall picture seems more ILI. I don't think LII is an impossibility either.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Although I don't think I've interacted with you I do enjoy reading your posts and get the impression that you're indeed an ego so I voted ILI
Your posts tend towards concrete language and factual accuracy, such as using detailed and commonly excepted terminology rather than making emotional or theoretical assertions /
EII INFj
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Last edited by Beautiful sky; 04-17-2010 at 01:04 AM.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Thanks Suzzy I have a friend whom I interact with seldomly, but, when we do, we talk for hours. There are no boundaries to what we talk about, and usually it's about the abstract. It's an oasis - engages my imagination. I get that sense a similar potential between us. I'm not sure we are identical types, but, I sense similar and harmonious enough to get along well. And assuming we are both E5s, we understand our need for solitude, space, to engage our intellectual curiosity and creativity.
Last edited by cinq; 04-17-2010 at 01:24 AM.
Not sure either. I have actually 2 friendships of this nature. I suspect both are 5s. You made me think of the other friend who called me just a few days ago. We naturally drifted to a topic that in most circumstances, communications would have most likely been diverted or ended. In fact, I would not have discussed it with anyone else; I trusted he would understand and not think twice. When his daughter fell ill with leukemia, I visited him and his daughter at the hospital. We walked the grounds discussing her prognosis of 0.2 percent survival (or something of that level), it naturally hurt, but, we had no illusions fate would step in if prayed hard enough. We discussed it rationally and objectively, talked about the next steps in the 'treatment' strategy.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I think this is where we differ. I don't qualify these friendships as soulful sharing, and I wouldn't say we always know where the other is coming from. What makes the friendships interesting is the ability to exchange ideas and experiences that one would normally be able to share with others - ideas that would be considered unconventional/idiosyncratic. I mean, my time with them doesn't end contemplating the soulful experience. We may have great conversations, sometimes lasting for hours. But, I may not see them again for 6 months to a year, and live less than 1Km from me. We may randomly connect the next time, but, by no means do we seek each other out. Maybe this is an NT vs NF difference between you and me. Just a thought.