People who incessantly repeat themselves

[The Exception]

You know, the people who say the same things in a conversation over and over again, making the conversation rather circular in nature.

My question is:

Are there certain types more prone to this style?

Or is it more about the interaction between types. i.e. Is is more about the type of relationship involved rather than the types themselves?

[munenori2]

Are we talking about people who tell the same old stories again and again or like me when I stress something like, "That's crazy, dude. CRAZY!"

[Brilliand]

Are we talking about people who tell the same old stories again and again or like me when I stress something like, "That's crazy, dude. CRAZY!"

I imagine it as someone who says "So you should really Y because X, so you should really Y because X...".

Actually, I think I've done this... anyone who wants to be heard is liable to do this if they aren't acknowledged.

[Marie84]

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I think it was Rick in the Till Lindermen thread who said these elements are used to beat a message into someones head, hence the subconscious need to instill said message
It's essentially a repetitive, unchanging, form of command

I know my LSI father does this a lot, whether it be in general conversation where he'll often repeat something he said, or slightly change the wording, without realizing he's doing so. It becomes more apparent when he's frustrated in which he'll repeat the annoyance or command over and over to ad-nausea

[Aiss]

My ESFj mother has this trait. We're duals but this is one thing about her that bugs me. When she starts repeating herself, I'll start tuning her out because I'm no longer getting anything new out of the conversation. Of course, she'll repeat herself because she didn't think I heard it the first time, not aware that I'm tuning her out because I already know that stuff and know what's she's about to say.

My mother is ESE as well, and she does it all the time. Father (LII) tunes her out but nods or says something like "mhm" every now and then, very patiently.

I think you may wrong about ESEs thinking you haven't heard or something. I say "I know", or "you've already told me that", and my mother is like "you're horrible and selfish and don't want to talk to me!". I'll say "we already talked about it, is there something new?", and then she'll say "well, you HAVE TO talk!". Which to me is absurd, talking for the sake of talking. But, that seems to be what all Fe-valuers around do. I suppose they repeat themselves when they have nothing to say but "have to" talk. Changing topic works best, I find; when there actually is some information to exchange, we're communicating just fine.

[Jarno]

I know a person with ADHD does this. It's very annoying.

[Jarno]

Did I tell you guys about an ADHD person that I know, she's very annoying.

[Jarno]

There is this ADHD person that I have met, she repeats herself all the time, very annoying.

[Slacker]

I know people of lots of types who do this. The two who immediately stand out to me are my ESI brother and EIE dad.

[crazedrat]

You know, the people who say the same things in a conversation over and over again, making the conversation rather circular in nature.

My question is:

Are there certain types more prone to this style?

Or is it more about the interaction between types. i.e. Is is more about the type of relationship involved rather than the types themselves?

I've met gammas who do this alot in arguments and with presenting evidence. They seem to think you're ignoring their point by not focusing entirely on it, so they repeat themselves. But then I've met alphas who talk and talk about things which are really irrelevant, so it evens out.

[marooned]

They seem to think you're ignoring their point by not focusing entirely on it, so they repeat themselves.

I think this is important in this... because often with people who struggle to communicate with one another, each feels the other just isn't understanding their point, and so both repeat the same points over and over. Each person may be more aware of the repetition in what the other is saying than in what they are saying and may perceive that person as "one who repeats the same shit all the time in convos."

I know one person who I think is LSI possibly who is constantly ranting over limited subjects, like fishing or the government, always saying the same stuff, etc. and generally hammering home the same points (though he doesn't think he's doing that, just that he feels very passionately about these matters and feels the need to express it). This person suffers from stagnation where society just won't bend to the way he wants it and he's unwilling to compromise in the meantime or do anything to bend it more. There is pent up frustration of going, going, and getting nowhere.

I know someone I suspect is SLI who complains about the same things over and over, the hardships of her existence in the form of beaurocratic crap that's always in her way (I really associate it with her IPness... IPs can be the biggest whiners, and most inclined to get stuck in some hole they can't get out of, all imo -- although that's probably a bad representation because I think were it not for certain circumstances, there would be less being stuck in a hole, so actually this is unreasonable). This person is a single mom with three children, one of which has a disability and it's been taking her a while to get back on her feet, so again, it's the going, going and not getting anywhere very fast because there are always set backs (usually due to care for the kid with the disability). So there is frustration again with not being able to move very far. (And I didn't mean to suggest that her situation isn't frustrating and I would whine constantly about it were it my situation I'm sure. Actually I would go insane.)

I know an ESE who repeats the same things she's read in self-help books ad infinitum and relates any topic back to these topics whether it relates or not. This is more of an ideological repeat button. It can get set to different things and may change over time, but it's always repeat, repeat.

I know an ESI who repeats the same "I hate it when people"s again and again, usually brought up by some recent frustration. This is caused by intolerance and perfectionism, imo... people constantly fail to live up to her expectations and she won't lower them, and so people are an endless source of frustration.

I have difficulty guaging what I repeat or don't repeat... I feel I in general repeat similar themes over periods of time, until they change again. I think a lot of times I keep my IP whining to myself, somehow. What's strange is that I seem to have a higher tolerance for people repeating the same stuff... or maybe I just avoid it or try to change the subject. I guess more what I mean is I don't know if I mind it so much.

[Aiss]

I think this is important in this... because often with people who struggle to communicate with one another, each feels the other just isn't understanding their point, and so both repeat the same points over and over. Each person may be more aware of the repetition in what the other is saying than in what they are saying and may perceive that person as "one who repeats the same shit all the time in convos."

This is a good point. Also, people are repeating themselves in a different manner. And when one person repeats themselves in an argument, it's often because they refuse to address the point the other person is making, so the point is stressed again, seen as repetitive etc. Especially between merry and serious types.

[consentingadult]

You know, the people who say the same things in a conversation over and over again, making the conversation rather circular in nature.

I do this, mostly in more serious disussions with LSIs, who simply don't seem to get the point I'm making. To a lesser extent also with ESIs. But not in cases of smalltalk, only when 'business' is discussed. In those cases both parties seem to be on differently wavelengths and trying to make the other party come to their wavelength.

[Blaze]

You know, the people who say the same things in a conversation over and over again, making the conversation rather circular in nature.

My question is:

Are there certain types more prone to this style?

Or is it more about the interaction between types. i.e. Is is more about the type of relationship involved rather than the types themselves?

um, SEE is who comes to mind. and LII hatred of redundancy stands out clear as day, lol.

could be a Te valuing thing....pointing out the facts as the present in different ways to make the point.

Ti draws a straight line and is done with it.

[Brilliand]

Ti draws a straight line and is done with it.

[Blaze]

those lines don't look very straight Brilliand.

[Brilliand]

those lines don't look very straight Brilliand.

Yeah, posting that picture was my way of indicating doubt that your statement was true. I'm as prone to rabbit trails as the next guy. :wink: (May vary depending on who the next guy is. Women do not qualify for this comparison.)

[Blaze]

Yeah, posting that picture was my way of indicating doubt that your statement was true. I'm as prone to rabbit trails as the next guy. :wink: (May vary depending on who the next guy is. Women do not qualify for this comparison.)

i didn't say YOU draw straight lines. i said Ti draws straight lines. Ti cuts to the chase about logical consistency, different than the way Te meanders, depending on what's going on.

[MatthewZ]

Ti draws a straight line and is done with it.

You can't get a man on the moon with "straight" lines.

[Blaze]

You can't get a man on the moon with "straight" lines.

true. you need imagination for that (Ne)!! are you saying that i'm over-simplifying?

this thread is about repeating things...i'm simply saying that it's Ti that doesn't like redundancy. there's no need to continue to point out facts that have already been established. i'm saying that Ti sees simple facts as straightforward, that things that have already been established, there is no need to go over and over and over. that once something is said, it's been said. that there is a a lack of logic in being redundant.

redundant enough? lol