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    Quote Originally Posted by The Greeter View Post
    I can believe that an ESTj would remove an INFj in a situation that is dangerous for the INFj. But if the INFj is already aware of the dangerous situation, why would there be a need for the dual? Removing yourself from a bad situation is easily done once one recognizes it is bad.

    Also, I can see that one of the ways an ESTj can "protect" the INFj is by taking command of the situation (ie. becoming the "queen" of the place). But, again, is it really necessary if an INFj (according to you) knows how to get out of it?
    We can't get out of the situation in this case, because one side of us wants to contribute to knowledge and yet another wants to help; ESTj would either tell everyone to back off, or as you saw Rasputin told me to stop talking in not such a direct way. I have a need to convey information dispite the Se-polr and stubborness, drive, and consistancy don't help in this matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    We can't get out of the situation in this case, because one side of us wants to contribute to knowledge and yet another wants to help; ESTj would either tell everyone to back off, or as you saw Rasputin told me to stop talking in not such a direct way. I have a need to convey information dispite the Se-polr and stubborness, drive, and consistancy don't help in this matter.
    The fact that you want to contribute to knowledge and wanting to help is not related to Se-PoLR.

    You are aware that what is happening is dangerous, therefore you can easily walk away from the situation; thus, you do not need someone who will allieviate the situation or take you out of it, you need someone to fight the battle with you, one that you choose to participate in. You have no need for an ESTj.
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