LII or LII? ATT: electric sheep

[Zed]

Okay, so there's a 10% chance I'll accept electric sheeps's SEI typing. If he can get a few credible people to side with him, perhaps that will increase.

From Krig's duality thread:http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...tml#post623487

ok I'm going to pull the experience card and say that I've been around longer, and you know we have a lot of the same experiences.

True, but I'm not sure those experiences are type related. And I'll let you play your experience card, that, and the fact that you're obviously not dumb, is why I'm taking you seriously in the first place.

Guessing my motives. Yes, I do that a lot when I'm arguing with people too, and you're wrong in this case. I would say this is a case of using SiFe in a debate because you're addressing my feelings rather than my thoughts. Of course, it doesn't work very well because like I've already told Krig, I wont engage him logically. All I can really say is "you made some good points" and leave it alone.

You are seeing what you want to see. I want to know your motives because I want to know which personal biases could be influencing your reason. Hack an argument down at its roots.

You avoid being formal. There is a problem with this. LIIs are almost always formal. Look at krig, huginn, labcoat, et al. They are extremely formal in their posts. You don't have the same rigid thinking as they do, or at least you act like you don't

I avoid being overly formal in certain posts for the reason that it influences the reader to be nit-picky about my choice of words. This isn't a good thing for me, as I'm usually half asleep, I suffer insomnia (which doesn't seem like something that would happen to an SEI). The right words often elude me and I end up being misinterpreted. Using a colloquial prose cuts me some slack.

And I don't think labcoat's reasoning is as "rigid" as you say. A lot of it is rhetoric. And a bit of OCD.

Reciprocating like this could mean different things. What I'm getting from this is that you can be either nice or mean depending on the general emotional climate. You have been well received here and you're nice in return. So would you say you have a good grasp of the emotional climate? You must have one in order to respond properly. It seems like you don't need a lot of guidance because you are able to grasp how you are expected to act based on the way people act towards you. Do you think that's weak Fe or strong Fe? When you say you're usually AR (I'm assuming that relates to some kind of social ineptitude) it could just be because you are just responding to a different emotional climate. There could be all kinds of reasons why you act differently under different circumstances.

Kamajama sent me a friend request. It doesn't take an ethical type to gauge the emotional climate in such a situation. I really am not good at judging how people feel about me - I need to be constantly told where I stand in relationships. Before I learned that this was an LII trait, I used to think it was insecurity. AR - anal retentive. :wink:

Essentially we are our duals turned inside out. If you take out the jargon you used, you could see that you also described duality. When we talk about mirror relations, we emphasize different aspects of the same things. Like when it's you and your cousin together, you don't see the point in the activity (maybe a bit of Ip/Si laziness in there), but she said the point of the activity was just to socialize (Fe emphasis). That's a mirror disagreement imo. You aren't seeing eye to eye in a sense, like you do with ILEs. An ILE probably wouldn't want to participate in something that was "just to socialize" either.

Again, you are seeing what you want to see. In duality, we are turned inside out, but not totally inverted. The fact is that SEI generally still only find Ti useful only as far as it relates to Ne (well, as I understand things, anyway.)

You are missing the point that my focus was on the rational (for which practical purpose are we knitting?) and my cousin shifts that focus to the ethical (it gives us an excuse to hang out).

Well I hope I reached you in some way. What I've said might not mesh well with what you've read on other websites or with what the people here will say, and I completely understand if you choose to go with them over me, but I trust my own experience more than those websites or the NTs who claim to know what SEIs are like

I respect that. It's just that you don't know me well enough - you are trying to type me too soon, imo.